Warmoth War Moth

Holy Crap!! You guys are BRUTAL! Wood, chrome, black, tortoise...Oh, NO: WHAT IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T LIKE THE CHOICE I MAKE!!??  :sad: How will I live it down? How will I sleep again? Guys-it's a freakin' KNOB! I'll probably go with a chrome dome, 'cause that'll go well with the 'blue shell' pickguard I decided on.                              :icon_biggrin:
 
Ha Ha  :laughing7:  .... like I said it's your choice  :icon_biggrin:

Hey I meant to ask you Mr Ape ...
Now that you have done a few of these ( I've lost count)  :doh:

Was wondering which type of woods you find easier or better to work with ?
This Pine (I have one here too) is real soft and tear-outs really easy.  :toothy11:

I think ya did one on some Flame Maple too.

:dontknow: I just wondered if ya had a preference to work on / with.
No I'm NOT gunna attempt doing it (wood burning / finishing)

BTW ... that moth in the last pic, looks effing amazing  :eek:  ... so 3D-ish. Looks like it's floating above.  :icon_thumright:

Great Ape said:
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Great Ape said:
Holy Crap!! You guys are BRUTAL! Wood, chrome, black, tortoise...Oh, NO: WHAT IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T LIKE THE CHOICE I MAKE!!??  :sad: How will I live it down? How will I sleep again? Guys-it's a freakin' KNOB! I'll probably go with a chrome dome, 'cause that'll go well with the 'blue shell' pickguard I decided on.                              :icon_biggrin:

Never would've thought of it myself, but, now that you mention it, blue shell would look really nice with the blue/grey sections.
 
Updown said:
Ha Ha  :laughing7:  .... like I said it's your choice  :icon_biggrin:

Hey I meant to ask you Mr Ape ...
Now that you have done a few of these ( I've lost count)  :doh:

Was wondering which type of woods you find easier or better to work with ?
This Pine (I have one here too) is real soft and tear-outs really easy.  :toothy11:

I think ya did one on some Flame Maple too.

:dontknow: I just wondered if ya had a preference to work on / with.
No I'm NOT gunna attempt doing it (wood burning / finishing)

BTW ... that moth in the last pic, looks effing amazing  :eek:  ... so 3D-ish. Looks like it's floating above.  :icon_thumright:

Great Ape said:
So far, Murray, I've burned on quilt & flame maple, pine, black korina, and a little bit on the back of one in swamp ash. The ash is tough because the grain kinda flows in waves, so the surface isn't flat...maple is nice and hard, so the surface is quite consistent, and you don't get any little SURPRISES like with pine, which is filled with little pockets of sap that suddenly sizzle and jump out at ya...and it's very soft so the temperature needs to be a bit lower on the burner. I think my favorite to work on is the black korina, but I'm not sure if that's because it's actually the "best" to burn on, or because it's just such gorgeous, variable-grained wood. Hey, what I'm doin' here is just a minefield loaded with tension & danger, y'know? Very unpleasant, but somebody's gotta do it! :toothy10: And thanks for the moth comment--that is the effect I was shooting for. 
 
Pelagaard said:
Great Ape said:
Holy Crap!! You guys are BRUTAL! Wood, chrome, black, tortoise...Oh, NO: WHAT IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T LIKE THE CHOICE I MAKE!!??  :sad: How will I live it down? How will I sleep again? Guys-it's a freakin' KNOB! I'll probably go with a chrome dome, 'cause that'll go well with the 'blue shell' pickguard I decided on.                              :icon_biggrin:

Never would've thought of it myself, but, now that you mention it, blue shell would look really nice with the blue/grey sections.
Jeez, man, I was just kiddin'  :toothy12:
 
I think this is one amazingly beautiful piece of work. I cant not wait to see it completed. it definately inspires me to attempt woodburning. Im kind of digging the black pickgaurd and knob. gives it a vintage kind of flavor. I mean black after all is the classic color.
 
Hi Greg.
Could you tell me which No ears TV Jones ya went for ?
Do they come with the mount screws ?  :dontknow:  .... (I presume so)

I have a Pine La Cabronita body too and was gunna get the Power'tron for the neck and the Power'tron Plus for the bridge.
I usually go for a bit more grunt in the bridge.  :party07:

Or if anyone else has TV Jones pups ..... your thoughts please (on above combo)
Thanks  :icon_thumright:

Shall order them with my neck.

Forgot to add ... I'm adding a Tone control to the existing Vol & toggle.
 
Great Ape said:
So far, Murray, I've burned on quilt & flame maple, pine, black korina, and a little bit on the back of one in swamp ash. The ash is tough because the grain kinda flows in waves, so the surface isn't flat...maple is nice and hard, so the surface is quite consistent, and you don't get any little SURPRISES like with pine, which is filled with little pockets of sap that suddenly sizzle and jump out at ya...and it's very soft so the temperature needs to be a bit lower on the burner. I think my favorite to work on is the black korina, but I'm not sure if that's because it's actually the "best" to burn on, or because it's just such gorgeous, variable-grained wood. Hey, what I'm doin' here is just a minefield loaded with tension & danger, y'know? Very unpleasant, but somebody's gotta do it! And thanks for the moth comment--that is the effect I was shooting for.

That's good info to know - I'll also be working on a korina body at some point. Basswood seems to be a popular wood in pyrography because it's light colored with uniform grain, so I'll have to do some basswood guitars soon. Also will be doing mahogany.
 
Updown said:
Hi Greg.
Could you tell me which No ears TV Jones ya went for ?
Do they come with the mount screws ?  :dontknow:  .... (I presume so)

I have a Pine La Cabronita body too and was gunna get the Power'tron for the neck and the Power'tron Plus for the bridge.
I usually go for a bit more grunt in the bridge.  :party07:

Or if anyone else has TV Jones pups ..... your thoughts please (on above combo)
Thanks  :icon_thumright:

Shall order them with my neck.

Forgot to add ... I'm adding a Tone control to the existing Vol & toggle.
Those are the pickups I'm installing in The Moth, and they do come w/mounting screws, wiring diagram, and some foam if you need/want it under the pickup...
 
If I were you, I'd seriously think about getting in touch with some dealers for boutique guitars like Fat Sound, Wild West Guitars, MakeN Music.. you can pretty much page through Premier Guitar and Vintage Guitar magazines and then go online and get a feel for it. I mean, one of your bodies, when paired with a good neck, good pickups and an extremely good setup is nicer (to MY eye) than these ridiculous "relic'd" POS's that sell for over $3,000. Now I don't want to blow smoke up yer ass, there's ten million people making guitars and nine million of them are going broke but this is extremely nice (and UNIQUE) work (you too patriot).

Warmoth necks ARE NOT FINISHED, it'd be a quick and sorry flameout to just slap 'em together with sloppy wiring and  toothsome frets. But you have options, there. Sell bodies only, or partner with someone who is already set up for sales and assembly, fine wiring and fretwork... which would be easiest. I mean, Keith Richards and Ron Wood BOTH need one of these, and they need them quick, because they both look dead already these days.



http://www.fatsoundguitars.com/index.php
http://wildwestguitars.com/
http://www.makenmusic.com/
 
Thank you for the kind words, encouragement, and ideas. Already in the works is a web site (mine) on which I'll offer these on a special-order, one of a kind, BODY ONLY, woodburned/painted commisioned basis...I'm not looking to make a living or a career out of it, but as an artist, I admit that I love the idea of sharing something I create with others-If 'art' sits in the corner of the studio/home of whoever did it, then ultimately, it's just something sitting in the corner! When it's shared, it takes on life...that's how a creation becomes 'art'.
    You don't really think that ownership of one of these things is gonna bring Keith or Ron back to life, now, do ya? Heh, heh... 
 
As a proudly former -"small bizmess owner" I want to add a bit here*. As I said, the single biggest mistake you could do is send them out with your burning, but indifferent assembly, finishing and setup. I am not a big "well the old ones were nitro!" kind of guy, but I understand it as well as anything... however, even if I were to want one of these finished with nitro!! by tonar!!, I'd want it to be durable nitro, IFKWIM.

The second biggest mistake would be to sell yourself too cheap, I'd take it "a few at a time" until you've seem what "the market can do" as those happy bond traders say. Hint: if the first guy you sell one to orders three more at the same price and you see the first one on Ebay for $1,000 more, well the market done told you something.

Nextly furthemmost, you want to sniff around the "services" type of business. You may fly for a while, but if you're just honestly piling up money left and right - well I know fer a fact that the IRS really does have programs to sniff out internet tax "dodgers" and agents to follow up (zounds....) Hey it worked for Al Capone so they did it to the online "casinos" (tho in my opp anyone who just GIVES their bank account info to somebody living on a "tax haven" overseas isle... well U just do deserve to be poor). If you can book these as services rather than merchandise, it can go a lot easier. For example your distribution/marketing whomever is buying the bodies, they just happen to get delivered to you first might satisfy the model. Or if you just DO keep 1/3 or so of the value of them in an account somewhere, if the IRS come a-sniffin' you can just PAY 'em, surprises the hell out of 'em too. :icon_thumright: (This was the diff between Willie Nelson & Donald Trump, & why Willie had to pay cash for a tank of gas and an ice cream cone, for a while there).

:eek: Them revenuers are easily the most computer-savvy of all our federal agencies, because of the headhunters=promotions kind of bounty system they run. And deny till they're out of breath, then clink you cause you're annoying them :eek: 

Though usually, just pretending to be really stupid gets you over the big hurdle.

And the biggie - many, many people incl. some of us ( :eek:) have found that pleasurable, seemingly-"good"-paying hobbies can overnight turn into flubbery fire-breathing giant warty monsters dribbling putrescent gore in your midnight Wheaties as soon as you commit to "units" and "time periods" and "inventory" and shit. Especially "time periods". You can ask Mayfly about his amps or me about catering or half-a-dozen other peeps.

*(I almost said proudly-failing sm bizmess ownr but I pulled it out in time... I swear I did!)
 
Have to agree with what you said, Stub; notice that I said "special order"...that means I have to think the project is SPECIAL in ORDER to even consider doing it...I've got no intention of doing any kind of numbers, or any fast jobs...this ain't about money, which doesn't mean I wouldn't charge appropriately (That means I decide what's appropriate), it's about creating unique art and sharing it-for a price...call me naive, stupid, clueless, whatever, but I'm fortunate enough to not need the money, and blessed to be able to pursue a passion, dig?
 
Your work is a thousand  :icon_scratch:  if not a million times better than this.
http://www.fender.com/en-AU/series/collector-custom/melanie-steinway-tribal-moth-dreadnought/

Tribal Moth  :doh:
 
Updown said:
Your work is a thousand  :icon_scratch:  if not a million times better than this.
http://www.fender.com/en-AU/series/collector-custom/melanie-steinway-tribal-moth-dreadnought/

Tribal Moth  :doh:
Sorry, but that one is just cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezy....anybody got some wine... :icon_scratch:
 
Impressive work. The body itself looked incredible but being paired with that neck makes it even better.
 
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