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new Van Halen!!!

elfro89 said:
Torment Leaves Scars said:
Marko said:
to me, it really looks they are having fun...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFAEnVY1MZo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9QBxrzx1Tc&feature=related

anyway, I enjoyed the 2007 shows, and I will enjoy this tour too!! also excited about the new material!

I'm sure they're having a grand old time and they'll be having an even grander time charging their fans out the ass for tickets once this tour starts!

I'd really like to see the original lineup.  I think they'd probably still put on a good show.

I just heard a clip of their new song, "Tattoo.". I sure hope they can do better than that because it SUCKED.

Jesus buddy! The way you go on anyone would think you were married to Sammy Hagar.  :icon_jokercolor:

Nah, I didn't particularly care for Sammy.  I like VH with Dave all the way.  I'm all for a new VH record but from what I heard, I just didn't like it at all.  It wasn't long ago I read an interview with Eddie and he said he wasn't going to put out any new albums because people didn't care to hear them.  He said any time he played something new people just stared at each other like "WTF" and only wanted to hear the classics.  He said he wasn't going to spend his money putting out new music if nobody wanted to hear it.  Personally, I want to hear some new VH stuff, but good stuff.  "Tattoo" just doesn't cut it...
 
DangerousR6 said:
I'd pay double for a Chicken Foot ticket, before I bought a VH ticket..

You'd pay double to see Van Halen rejects?  :icon_scratch:

Leave Sammy, Michael, and Chad at home...just have Satch show up.  That show in itself would be worth double.  I saw Satch in 1996 or 1997 and all I can say is "WOW!"  While I'm not into shred music or really into his style, that man can flat-out PLAY.  He put on a GREAT show!
 
I enjoyed the 2007 shows as well, but hearing that they play sampled parts with the vocals is disappointing.
Tickets were kinda ridiculous for that show, though.
 
All I'm saying is, that MA is part of the longtime synergy of VH.  He went through 3 singers with the VH brothers and faithfully did his job.  I don't think it's fair to him for EVH to oust him simply because EVH & Hagar don't speak to each other & MA & Hagar do.  That's the only reason MA has been alienated from the group.  EVH always goes on & on about how MA doesn't write, but EVH never let him either.

If Wolfie is improving as a player, awesome, that's great.  Back him in his own project like Frank did for Dweezil.  Don't hang 35 years of history on the shoulders of a young player who hasn't played in clubs & learned how to entertain the guy in the nosebleed seats in the back of the arena.

I see county fairs & casino's in the VH future.
 
TonyFlyingSquirrel said:
All I'm saying is, that MA is part of the longtime synergy of VH.  He went through 3 singers with the VH brothers and faithfully did his job.  I don't think it's fair to him for EVH to oust him simply because EVH & Hagar don't speak to each other & MA & Hagar do.  That's the only reason MA has been alienated from the group.  EVH always goes on & on about how MA doesn't write, but EVH never let him either.

If Wolfie is improving as a player, awesome, that's great.  Back him in his own project like Frank did for Dweezil.  Don't hang 35 years of history on the shoulders of a young player who hasn't played in clubs & learned how to entertain the guy in the nosebleed seats in the back of the arena.

I see county fairs & casino's in the VH future.

I totally agree.  Michael was a lot of their signature sound, especially when it came to their background vocals.  Just by listening to the background vocals, you knew it was Van Halen.
 
Torment Leaves Scars said:
DangerousR6 said:
I'd pay double for a Chicken Foot ticket, before I bought a VH ticket..

You'd pay double to see Van Halen rejects?  :icon_scratch:

Leave Sammy, Michael, and Chad at home...just have Satch show up.  That show in itself would be worth double.  I saw Satch in 1996 or 1997 and all I can say is "WOW!"  While I'm not into shred music or really into his style, that man can flat-out PLAY.  He put on a GREAT show!
Seriously....rejects, a bit of a news flash for you, Sammy was rockin'  long before Ed. And Sammy can hold his own whether its playing guitar or vocals. And along side of Michael, Joe and Chad they are miles above what VH could e er hope to be. So yes I'd pay double, maybe even 3 times more...
 
DangerousR6 said:
Torment Leaves Scars said:
DangerousR6 said:
I'd pay double for a Chicken Foot ticket, before I bought a VH ticket..

You'd pay double to see Van Halen rejects?  :icon_scratch:

Leave Sammy, Michael, and Chad at home...just have Satch show up.  That show in itself would be worth double.  I saw Satch in 1996 or 1997 and all I can say is "WOW!"  While I'm not into shred music or really into his style, that man can flat-out PLAY.  He put on a GREAT show!
Seriously....rejects, a bit of a news flash for you, Sammy was rockin'  long before Ed. And Sammy can hold his own whether its playing guitar or vocals. And along side of Michael, Joe and Chad they are miles above what VH could e er hope to be. So yes I'd pay double, maybe even 3 times more...

Chad can trick up 4/4 like no other, and he is the perfect match for a player like MA to finally play to his full potential, unlike what he was limite to in VH.  I find it quite refreshing to see Satch playing with a vocalist considering he's only done one album with vocals as a solo artist.  Sammy and MA have a long proven chemistry that works well for them.  I think it's great when you throw people from different backgrounds together to collaborate like Chickenfoot has.  Artists need to challenge themselves.  Their collaboration doesn't just sound like a cross between VH/Satch Solo/Chili Peppers.  It's its own animal as it should be.
 
Yeah, not with you on the rejects term at all. Sammy doesn't rely on swagger or charisma to make his music, it feels a bit more natural, with dave it's all about the showmanship, "It's broadway baby, swagger swagger charisma." At the end of the day I like both and can see the greatness in all instances of Van Halen; even the Cherone stuff.

Torment Leaves Scars said:
"Tattoo" just doesn't cut it...

I tend to agree with the idea that the failure to like music, whether its a song, style or band, lays solely with oneself and our inability to understand it. If Van Halen's new music isn't to your liking, it's your failure to appreciate not the bands failure in not living up to your expectations.  :-\

Edit.
Also how new is tattoo really? Recognise this riff?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVU-xFtI8iU
 
DangerousR6 said:
Torment Leaves Scars said:
DangerousR6 said:
I'd pay double for a Chicken Foot ticket, before I bought a VH ticket..

You'd pay double to see Van Halen rejects?  :icon_scratch:

Leave Sammy, Michael, and Chad at home...just have Satch show up.  That show in itself would be worth double.  I saw Satch in 1996 or 1997 and all I can say is "WOW!"  While I'm not into shred music or really into his style, that man can flat-out PLAY.  He put on a GREAT show!
Seriously....rejects, a bit of a news flash for you, Sammy was rockin'  long before Ed. And Sammy can hold his own whether its playing guitar or vocals. And along side of Michael, Joe and Chad they are miles above what VH could e er hope to be. So yes I'd pay double, maybe even 3 times more...

Sammy...errr.  The "Red Rocker."  He wouldn't even have a career if it weren't for his stint with VH.  There were lots of people rockin' before Eddie and how many fall short?

Maybe these guys are great musicians, and maybe they aren't.  I've never held enough interest to study Michael Anthony's abilities, nor do I care for anything the Chili Peppers have ever done.  Personally, I don't think Chad's all that great, but that's me.

In the end, I heard the Chickenfoot record and all I could think was, "OU812."  It sounded like a Van Halen record to me, and not a good one.  :dontknow:
 
Torment Leaves Scars said:
DangerousR6 said:
Torment Leaves Scars said:
DangerousR6 said:
I'd pay double for a Chicken Foot ticket, before I bought a VH ticket..

You'd pay double to see Van Halen rejects?  :icon_scratch:

Leave Sammy, Michael, and Chad at home...just have Satch show up.  That show in itself would be worth double.  I saw Satch in 1996 or 1997 and all I can say is "WOW!"  While I'm not into shred music or really into his style, that man can flat-out PLAY.  He put on a GREAT show!
Seriously....rejects, a bit of a news flash for you, Sammy was rockin'  long before Ed. And Sammy can hold his own whether its playing guitar or vocals. And along side of Michael, Joe and Chad they are miles above what VH could e er hope to be. So yes I'd pay double, maybe even 3 times more...

Sammy...errr.  The "Red Rocker."  He wouldn't even have a career if it weren't for his stint with VH.  There were lots of people rockin' before Eddie and how many fall short?

Maybe these guys are great musicians, and maybe they aren't.  I've never held enough interest to study Michael Anthony's abilities, nor do I care for anything the Chili Peppers have ever done.  Personally, I don't think Chad's all that great, but that's me.

In the end, I heard the Chickenfoot record and all I could think was, "OU812."  It sounded like a Van Halen record to me, and not a good one.  :dontknow:
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DangerousR6 said:
Torment Leaves Scars said:
DangerousR6 said:
Torment Leaves Scars said:
DangerousR6 said:
I'd pay double for a Chicken Foot ticket, before I bought a VH ticket..

You'd pay double to see Van Halen rejects?  :icon_scratch:

Leave Sammy, Michael, and Chad at home...just have Satch show up.  That show in itself would be worth double.  I saw Satch in 1996 or 1997 and all I can say is "WOW!"  While I'm not into shred music or really into his style, that man can flat-out PLAY.  He put on a GREAT show!
Seriously....rejects, a bit of a news flash for you, Sammy was rockin'  long before Ed. And Sammy can hold his own whether its playing guitar or vocals. And along side of Michael, Joe and Chad they are miles above what VH could e er hope to be. So yes I'd pay double, maybe even 3 times more...

Sammy...errr.  The "Red Rocker."  He wouldn't even have a career if it weren't for his stint with VH.  There were lots of people rockin' before Eddie and how many fall short?

Maybe these guys are great musicians, and maybe they aren't.  I've never held enough interest to study Michael Anthony's abilities, nor do I care for anything the Chili Peppers have ever done.  Personally, I don't think Chad's all that great, but that's me.

In the end, I heard the Chickenfoot record and all I could think was, "OU812."  It sounded like a Van Halen record to me, and not a good one.  :dontknow:
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MA could probably do much more than the brothers ever let him do.  A small sacrifice to be in that band.  Let's face it, VH music is written around Eddie and the guitar solo.  For MA's backing vocals, that style was copied by everyone in that era even when not done by them.  Poison, Motley Crue, et al, it wasn't uncommon to have a guy off stage whose only job was to be heard and not seen.  You think Mick Mars, Nikki Sixx, C.C. DeVille, or Bobby Dahl can smoke a cartoon a day, run around the stage and hit those high notes?  Doubtful.

The lesson here, never trust the Dutch. :icon_jokercolor:
 
I don't know like, I don't think the music or band existed specifically for ed. I'm sure just as many people went to see Dave and Van Halen as they did with ed. Vocal harmonies and creating a fun badass vibe seemed to be the main focus, ed was just a part in the great whole. Either way, Van Halen for me are everything I want in a band, both the dave and sammy versions. The music was fantastic right down to catchy riffs and amazing chord voicings.
 
Torment Leaves Scars said:
Sammy...errr.  The "Red Rocker."  He wouldn't even have a career if it weren't for his stint with VH.
VH wasn't exactly his first gig.
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That brings back some memories. Used to cover a couple of Ronnie's tunes back when we were just grasshoppers.
 
AutoBat said:
Torment Leaves Scars said:
Sammy...errr.  The "Red Rocker."  He wouldn't even have a career if it weren't for his stint with VH.
VH wasn't exactly his first gig.
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+1

He already had a greatest hits album by the time he joined VH.  But let's please not make this a Sammy vs. Dave thread (speaking of no career w/out VH), instead like it as an "Eddie is a failure at being a decent person" thread.
 
You call Dave & Sammy VH rejects, then say put Satch in? While arguing for DLR?  You could go on that point for a while, but Satch, while talented - like a lot of virtuoso instrumentalists - always struck me as a pile of talent in search of direction and purpose. At any rate, Satch wouldn't have a career if it weren't for HIS stint as 'We need an EVH substitute."
 
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