R n R Dr said:One more, I also plan to do a Warmoth-based Explorer. Another question: there are two body sizes for Gibson: the original (current '76 reissue) size (the one with the pickguard), and the smaller Pro model (no pickguard).
Can someone already with this body tell me what this dimension is?
that model is the full sized model. the pro-version is just 90% of the normal size. dont know exact dimensions, sorry.
R n R Dr said:ognolman- You rock. :headbang: I really appreciate that comparison.
R n R Dr said:Also, for comparison, again from how your picture is, I measured from the lower left bolt to the upper right at a music store. The Pro model measures 25", the 76 reissue is 27.5". I asked Warmoth, and they said that their's is 27". But shaping the worst of the bolt off would get you close to the Pro size.
R n R Dr said:You know what might be interesting? If you rotated the Warmoth outline slightly clockwise to better match up with the Gibson. Yeah, the neck and upper pickup would be off, but it'd be interesting to see how much closer they are...
R n R Dr said:I do want to go back and do some more measurements so see how different they really are. And if you do get a chance to do that rotation ... (I did save the current picture, and I appreciate you saying how you did it. If you don't get a chance to do that rotation exercise, I might have to do it myself!)
R n R Dr said:I started looking at the Carvin V220, but I don't think they'll customize it to the degree that I want. And I like the Explorer body more too.
R n R Dr said:Strats are 25.5". 24.75" = 22 frets. 25.5" = 24 frets.
All of Warmoths bodies are setup as 25.5". But ... and I don't know if this is on their web site or not, the guy I'm emailing back and forth with says you can get a "conversion" neck to create a 24.75" setup with their bodies.
ognolman said:This should help illustrate the differences:
The pale outline is the Warmoth Explorer shape and a Gibson explorer image underneath. I used the pickup rout and the neck for reference, but you can see that I didn't scale up the Warmoth image quite enough. But you can still see some fairly obvious differences in them. I looked at James Hetfield's ESP Explorer body and it looks more like the Gibson. But it is entirely possible that they used a different model for their template or something. Maybe Gibson wouldn't license an exact copy of the shape or some legal thing.
I think that I would probably have to reshape it if I bought one. If nothing else, I would shape the top of the body at the neck joint to be a little sleeker looking. Maybe knock off a little bit of the point and round the bottom... It wouldn't be hard to do if you have a bandsaw or spindle sander or router or whatever...
Edit: Ironically, Warmoth may have done a better job of capturing the 'lightning bolt' motif that Gibson was looking for in the design of the Explorer. IMHO.
It also seems that the Warmoth body is slightly larger.
R n R Dr said:
R n R Dr said:Can't be, unless the numbers that Warmoth themselves gave me are wrong. I'm not sure how you can get to 1:1, when we don't have an absolute comparison for any of the pictures? Nothing can be 1:1 unless you have a 27.5" picture for Gibson's 27.5" body diagonal, point to point. See what I mean?