#1 post, double p90 esquire ?

[Rick]

Well ... If you have the money you can make whatever guitar you want.  Even if you're a billionaire you still have to figure out what you want.  Padiwan.      we must each follow our own path to what we want .... But if try sometimes you get what you need ... Yeah.

 

[TBurst Std]

Or as I say often, a man without a plan for his vision is merely only a dreamer.

 

[stratamania]

1st let me say I am not a professional builder,  just a shmuck  :binkybaby: with wild ideas,  and there are so many options.  I wanted a thinline tele,  so i ordered the rear routed walnut thinline with p90 routes, 510 tremolo and strat controls.  now i wait the 3 months.

I had contemplated routing paranormal for jazzmasters which warmoth said could be done,  then i learned of Fralins noise canceling alnico p90 which was a route offered in the builder.  I have a 335 build with 2 pearly gates, I like it but wanted something different.

Ideally i would like to find a US wiring guru (920d) who will custom wire a PP-strat pickguard and not force me to buy off the shelf.  basically a varitone with caps to match the p90 pickups and not  a varitone built for a gibson 345.  i dont need  6 different settings,  maybe 2 or 3 and bypass.

i want  i want i want. ... but will probably end up settling for something less.

Ok so we now need to look at what is possible with the already defined choices.

What we know so far ---

Rear routed walnut thinline with p90 routes, 510 tremolo and strat controls and time is on your side.

Can you confirm it is P90 x P90 rout or is there also a middle pickup rout?

Either way regardless of the pickups - we could be looking at a selector switch, master volume, master tone and a varitone.  A Creamery Pickups P90 size humbucker in the bridge position may also be an idea to get more of a PAF tone.

We need to zero in on what is possible to achieve based on what we know to be certain and what is logically and actually possible.

Oh and don't buy something prewired for a pickguard as you have a rear rout which would need different lengths of pot shafts and when you take something off a prewired pickguard to get the pickups wires through to the cavity you would end up having to de-solder etc.

 

[teleme01]

1st let me say I am not a professional builder,  just a shmuck  :binkybaby: with wild ideas,  and there are so many options.  I wanted a thinline tele,  so i ordered the rear routed walnut thinline with p90 routes, 510 tremolo and strat controls.  now i wait the 3 months.

I had contemplated routing paranormal for jazzmasters which warmoth said could be done,  then i learned of Fralins noise canceling alnico p90 which was a route offered in the builder.  I have a 335 build with 2 pearly gates, I like it but wanted something different.

Ideally i would like to find a US wiring guru (920d) who will custom wire a PP-strat pickguard and not force me to buy off the shelf.  basically a varitone with caps to match the p90 pickups and not  a varitone built for a gibson 345.  i dont need  6 different settings,  maybe 2 or 3 and bypass.

i want  i want i want. ... but will probably end up settling for something less.

Ok so we now need to look at what is possible with the already defined choices.

What we know so far ---

Rear routed walnut thinline with p90 routes, 510 tremolo and strat controls and time is on your side.

Can you confirm it is P90 x P90 rout or is there also a middle pickup rout?

Either way regardless of the pickups - we could be looking at a selector switch, master volume, master tone and a varitone.  A Creamery Pickups P90 size humbucker in the bridge position may also be an idea to get more of a PAF tone.

We need to zero in on what is possible to achieve based on what we know to be certain and what is logically and actually possible.

Oh and don't buy something prewired for a pickguard as you have a rear rout which would need different lengths of pot shafts and when you take something off a prewired pickguard to get the pickups wires through to the cavity you would end up having to de-solder etc.

thank you again Stratmania and Tbusrt for your insight and patience.  I can confirm that there is no middle pickup.  Also thank you for the headsup on cons of a prewired pickguard...

it goes without saying,  I am not a wiring guru.  I live in the woods with the nearest guitar shop being 70 miles away and have nobody local to get the valuable feedback that you guys are giving me,  thanks again again.  I do of course have the internets which give me plenty of ideas such as concentric knobs, etc., and then my ocd kicks in... 

yes to volume, tone and varitone with selector switch.  My guess is that the traditional varitone is made for humbuckers and may have the wrong values for use with p90s.  Hopefully I am wrong about that and the Big D varitone would work.  found this online https://reverb.com/item/32766007-tagima-tw-61-jm-style-with-p90-s-and-varitone-switch-in-sunburst and this one too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP0UGJI8QzA

my thoughts on the pearly gates sound would be HUM-CANCELLING P90 5% overwind

 

[stratamania]

Given a Varitone usually has a True Bypass position and then 5 different positions with different value caps to adjust it for P90s you could just ask someone to make you one with different values for P90s. I took a look and Big D mentions the values he usually uses so he is probably open to making one with other values.