Floyd rose tremolo without...

[Cagey]

Depends what you call "public".

 

[bagman67]

Big whoop. I've seen totally naked women before. In real life! Cost me a couple houses, but whaddaya gonna do? The Lord Court giveth, and the Lord Court taketh away <grin>

FTFY. HTH.  HAND.

Bagman

 

[Bruno]

http://www.online-discussion.com/Suhr/viewtopic.php?t=6658

John Suhr: "Well the Gotoh Floyd sounds good and stays in tune, if you are used to Floyds you might be disappointed with the limitations of the traditional non locking bridges. If you want the "response" of a more traditional bridge you could use a standard nut. This way you would not be limited by the radius issues. It will still stay in tune 95% as well as a double locking."
:glasses9:

 

[TonyFlyingSquirrel]

Been playing a Gotoh Floyd for nearly 16 years, no issues, stays in tune great with all of its original parts, despite heavy use.

 

[Bruno]

Of course.
What I wanted to point out it's that **my** idea (Floyd without locking nut) is not as farfetched as some would have you believe ...
:binkybaby:

 

[TonyFlyingSquirrel]

If you have a straight sting pull to the tuning posts, and do NOT dive to total slacked strings, there's really NO need for a locking nut.  Locking tuners will work great and make string changing even quicker.

 

[Orpheo]

I've been using floyds with regular nuts for a while now and I love m. It's easier to change strings, it looks better and the tone is less neutral.

In a floyd, the locking nut sucks monkey balls! The trem itself aint so bad. A regular 6 point is worse, IMHO.

About the fine tuners. It's just easier than the regular tuners. To fine tune whilst playing is a great bonus.

 

[Death by Uberschall]

OFR with a brass big block upgrade and locking nut is my preference. Lots of mass for great sustain and the tuning stability is rock solid. I've played shows back to back with the same guitars and the tuning was so stable that I've pulled the guitars out of the cases and the tuning was still spot on.  :icon_thumright:

I look at locking trems as just another tool in the tool box for what I want to do and hear at times.

 

[Alfang]

I have two guitars with floyds and regular Warmoth corian nuts, they work just fine. but i don't do divebombs.

Also, I love fine tuners, because of the mechanics of how they work you don't need to worry about tuning UP to pitch. And the resolution is very good.

In fact, I wish someone made a hard tail with fine tuners, they really are the cats meow

 

[bagman67]

I have two guitars with floyds and regular Warmoth corian nuts, they work just fine. but i don't do divebombs.

Also, I love fine tuners, because of the mechanics of how they work you don't need to worry about tuning UP to pitch. And the resolution is very good.

In fact, I wish someone made a hard tail with fine tuners, they really are the cats meow

Ask and ye shall receive:  Gibson's TP-6 tailpiece has 'em, which you can combine with a TOM bridge. 


You're on your own for a strat-style bridge avec tuners, though.


http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=gibson+tailpiece+with+fine+tuners&hl=en&prmd=imvns&resnum=4&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1599&bih=809&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=236687791369894645&sa=X&ei=jwm_TpLpFamjiQKz-6WYAw&ved=0CGYQ8wIwAA

 

[Cagey]

Predictably, Schaller makes a fine example as well (FS-CH 494), but just as predictably, they're tough to find in the US.

If you want to import one, you can get them from Thomann.

Edit: Now that I look at it, it's not a bridge at all. It's a fine-tuning tailpiece. So, never mind.

But, they do make a fine-tuning bridge/tailpiece combo that looks like this...

 

[DangerousR6]

OFR with a brass big block upgrade and locking nut is my preference. Lots of mass for great sustain and the tuning stability is rock solid. I've played shows back to back with the same guitars and the tuning was so stable that I've pulled the guitars out of the cases and the tuning was still spot on.  :icon_thumright:

I look at locking trems as just another tool in the tool box for what I want to do and hear at times.

Finally, someone who is on my side... :headbang1:

I do like the Schaller 456, been wanting to try one for years just never fitted it in to a project... :dontknow:

 

[Disco Scottie]

I like the feel of a FR, but the nut has always annoyed me. Really want to try it outwith the locking variety. I have a W with a Graphtech nut that isn't attached to anything right this minute... I guess I should put some locking tuners on and bolt it up to one of my guitars with a Floyd. Perhaps on an 80s Kramer...

 

[bagman67]

For anyone who's interested, AllParts stocks the Schaller 456.  I saw a couple hanging on the wall of Sylvan Music in Santa Cruz, California, yesterday, if you can't find 'em online.


Bagman

 

[Cagey]

Turns out Warmoth sells them, too.

 

[bagman67]

Fancy that.

 

[Alfang]

Thanks bagman and cagey, that would look good on a blk korina explorer

 

[ORCRiST]

We already know you don't like Floyds, so you therefore are unable to accumulate an unbiased opinion on them. The fact of the matter is all trems are equally unstable because of the fact they aren't solid mounted.  And they all do have an effect on tone in their own way, it all boils down to materials, albeit cheap or quality materials...

Also, I heard Cagey hates Freedom (he murdered truth and justice a long time ago).

:icon_biggrin:

 

[Strat Avenger]

Fine tuners are useful even with non-locking nuts, and locking tuners. You don't have as far to reach to make small adjustments, and you can make a tuning adjustment while playing, as your left hand may be holding down a chord, your right hand is free to make the adjustment on a fine-tuner.

I've seen Gibsons with fixed bridges that have fine-tuners.
They are quite convenient.

 

[downhomerock]

boom.  Looks like a full floating trem, but its really a fixed bridge with floyd-like fine tuners.
It's called the Ibanez Edge FX
I know they were released on Ibanez JS2000's but idk how to get the single unit itself.  It looks recessed also.