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Cagey said:You're taking this much too seriously. Nobody's puffing their chest and feeling superior, or saying their opinion is better than yours. They're just offering their opinion, the same way you did by posting a music video in a thread asking for your favorites. How is it you can have an opinion, but it isn't allowed for others to have one? You've essentially puffed your chest out and said "Look at me! This band is superior!" Is this your band? Do you play in it? Are you its mother? And even if any or all of that is true, does that make them or their music superior? I'm afraid not, Spanky.
You like them, that's fine. Now we know. Some others will or won't and may or may not say why, and we'll know that, too. In the grand scheme of things, it matters not a whit.
Just for the record, I don't enjoy that kind of music, so I'm not sure those guys are any good at it. My guess is they're not, if we're judging by musical talent/composition/listenability/etc. Close as I can tell, there's a demon growling something unintelligible in the background, a guitar player with a super-compressed tone playing some kind of fabricated scales at the speed of light, and a drummer having wild monkey sex on a set of acoustic drums. I'm sure they're having a blast, and there are those who enjoy that sort of thing so much they'd even pay to see/hear it. That's fine. Fun's where you find it. Personally, I couldn't care less if you paid me.
You have been defending a post of which you are not even the author. The only reason for defending a post which isn't even your's is that you, too, are taking this "much too seriously." If pabloman had simply said "not my cup o tea. Don't dig the constant sweeps and over compression of the guitar," then THAT would lead to discussion. Instead he had to write something to put it down.You're taking this much too seriously.
Which could also be stated as, "This isn't decent, and it is garbage." So, according to you, Cagey, that statement will lead to discussion(which it sort of has).It hardly ever applicable in anything decent besides the "I want to show my technical prowess" garbage.
No. pabloman was simply putting down and entire GENRE of music (as you do later in the above quote). Why call a band "lame" or "garbage" when you clearly do NOT listen to the genre of music they play and thus nothing to base your judgement on? The answer would be, as I was stating before, to feel better about yourself. To reassure yourself that what you listen to is the greatest. No other type of music is better because your music is best. No music should ever have sweeps very often because the music you listen to doesn't. That type of closed-mindedness is what was wrong with his post.They're just offering their opinion...
Notice how I didn't comment on any of the other videos posted. I didn't trash talk anyone else's favorite live videos. I left their opinion of "favorite" as it is, because it has nothing to do with me. As I was saying before, this thread will NOT change anyone's taste in music. And up until pabloman's post everyone was doing the right thing. "Oh I don't listen to that music, so I won't critique their playing technique since I am in no way associated with that particular type of music. However, here is my pick for 'favorite live music video'" pabloman's trash talk of some of my favorite music was what really irked me. There was no sign of it before my post in this thread, and maybe it's simply because I'm new here. Either way, I'm not just going to roll over on this issue.How is it you can have an opinion, but it isn't allowed for others to have one?
I'm not sure what to say about this, since you went from nobody to everybody within 3 sentences... :icon_scratch:Nobody's puffing their chest and feeling superior...You've essentially puffed your chest out and said "Look at me! This band is superior!"
I suppose I'll make a rebuttal to the second statement. I was, in no way shape or form, declaring Brain Drill to be superior. I guess it was "superior" on my own list of favorite live videos, but I wasn't stating that it was better than anything else on this thread. I essentially said, "Hey, check out these guys. I saw them live and now I use thumbpicks." I was kind of hoping to get some discussion relating to my statement I had after the video and not so much the video itself. Sort of like, "Have you ever been to a concert and picked up something they do or how they play?"
I friggin wish! They probably get drunk a lot, though, and I don't drink... Cool dudes, though. I talked to them after the show. Oddly polite. Also, don't call me Spanky and I won't call you Shirley.Is this your band? Do you play in it? Are you its mother?
Why? Why judge something you yourself admitted you know nothing about? I don't go to the Olympics and judge the curling event. You shouldn't judge a speed death metal band when your favorite live music video is of Deep Purple. Which is the point I was trying to make earlier. I like death metal, I'll leave pop rock and classic rock alone. Why? Because I honestly have not a whit of an idea as to what's good in either of those categories. To me it's all the same, as I'm sure all death metal is to you. If you can't see a difference in any song in a genre, then I believe you have no right to sit and judge any artist within that genre.so I'm not sure those guys are any good at it. My guess is they're not
Phew! Okay, having said all of that I would like to apologize to lidesnowi for getting so far off on a tangent. Cagey, you mentioned that the drummer looks like a monkey(I'm assuming the best and thinking that isn't meant to be racist) and I'd like to state that generally, death metal IS in fact goofy. I totally agree with you on that. The vocals are goofy, the lyrics are goofy, the music that they're creating is well... goofy(goofy goofy goober goober YEAH!) When metal(or, in my opinion any music) starts getting serious, it is either really sad(a song in memory of... type thing) or really watered down. I tend not to listen to music where the artist isn't having fun. Ted Nugent is a great example of being able to hear that he's having fun. Devin Townsend is another example, and is actually the reason I started listening for fun in the music.
Death metal is my most listened to type of music and is, by nature, funny. But, as pabloman inadvertently stated, they do have technical prowess.
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