Warmoth Peel n Play Giveaway - Enter Now!

[Wizard of Wailing]

    I don't know if Eddie's playing was that different.  That being said,  I don't think he (or hardly any other guitarist in existence),  ever did anything more creative than the first album.  God only knows how many guitarists started playing because of that album.  He did start using a ton of chorus for his tone in the Hagar era.  All I know is that when people find out that I play the guitar and they ask me what I can play, the 4 songs that always seem to come up are Thunderstruck, Enter Sandman, Eruption, and Hot for Teacher.  Nobody's ever asked me if I can play Dreams, Right Now, or How Will I Know When It's Love.  (I can't play those last three. I never learned any VH after 1984).   

 

[Seamas]

I have a confession of a certain blasphemy that could easily get me banished from this forum.

I never cared at all for Van Halen.
I graduated HS in 1985 (so right in the wheelhouse of their fan base) and at that time I actively despised them. I still turn the dial 90% of the time they pop up on the radio.


I'll go clean out my office…

 

[swarfrat]

I was aware of VH during high school but didn't listen to them until much later. I think 5150 is probably my favorite.

 

[TonyFlyingSquirrel]

I was a fan from VHII, but after the fallout after Balance, no VH lineup will be the same.
I saw them with Cherone, and while he did fine, he was in a no-win situation from the get go.

After the first reunion with Sammy, & then the one with Roth, EVH seems to have it in for Michael Anthony, and I don't think it is fair to him after walking with the VH brothers through 3 singers & ego battles.  Michael Anthony is top shelf people, he's never badmouthed his former band mates in the media, and has always kept to the higher ground. 

After seeing live footage with Roth in recent years, I still appreciate the musicality in which Sammy performs, as Dave just banters through & doesn't actually sing any of his old songs.

While it's a very special thing for EVH to share the stage with his brother & Wolf, VH as a brand has a history that Michael Anthony is a huge part of, and to dis him & cast him out removed a lot of respect that I had for EVH.

Sorry to derail the thread, back on topic now.

 

[Seamas]

EVH seems to have it in for Michael Anthony, and I don't think it is fair to him after walking with the VH brothers through 3 singers & ego battles.  Michael Anthony is top shelf people, he's never badmouthed his former band mates in the media, and has always kept to the higher ground.  …
VH as a brand has a history that Michael Anthony is a huge part of, and to dis him & cast him out removed a lot of respect that I had for EVH.

Like I said I wasn't a fan, but was always well aware of the drama.
I agree in regards to Michael Antony.
it should be mentioned that in addition to playing bass he did the bulk of the better harmony vocals.

I have to admit, that prior to hearing him play in Chickenfoot, I kinda thought he was a very boring bass player. I recall reading in Guitar Player that EVH pretty much dictated that MA play VERY simple bass lines.
There were a couple reasons why I never caught the VH bug, but a key reason was the rhythm section.
I hated that AVH always hits the half-open high hat and I hated the dum, dum, dum dum tonic bass lines.
I've always been in the opinion that having a great bass and drum was far more important than having a great guitar player in any band.

 

[TonyFlyingSquirrel]

He's had some moments on VHII & Fair Warning, but that's about it.
He's phenomenal in Chickenfoot.

 

[Wizard of Wailing]

    Regarding Seamas not digging VH, it made me think of a very highly regarded guitarist that I don't like at all, but every other guitarist loves.  I suppose we probably all have at least one of those.  I do always say I have FAVORITE guitarists.  I try to never use the term BEST guitarist.

 

[swarfrat]

I've never run across a single soul who thinks they did right by MA. and I'm not one to dish on any chance to make music with your kid, but... the idea of playing Black & Blue with your dad's band, particularly when the song is older than you... kind of disturbs me a bit.

 

[mayfly]

    Regarding Seamas not digging VH, it made me think of a very highly regarded guitarist that I don't like at all, but every other guitarist loves.  I suppose we probably all have at least one of those. 

Yep - I've got one of those.  That Slash guy.

 

[pirate]

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Yep - I've got one of those.  That Slash guy.
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I’ll second that

 

[TBurst Std]

Actually I believe we all have a few that others view as great.  Their playing does nothing for me. And that’s ok.  If we all agreed, then there’s only 10 great players vs 100 or a 1000 etc

 

[T89Rex]

Malmsteen. Outstandingly boring.

 

[mayfly]

Hah!  I remember seeing him on TV for the first time years ago.  My reaction was:

"wow!! that guy is really good!.... Yea he's really really good!!.... .....  this music is crap." 

 

[stratamania]

Who or what you like and why is subjective and a matter of taste or the lack thereof, which itself may be subjective.

You may also find over the years that your tastes change and what do you do then other than revise your opinion...

 

[Rick]

True taste evolves but Led Zeppelin always wins.  I just wish  some one else had a chance I’d even go for yingie,  or Steve Morse.

 

[Seamas]

Hah!  I remember seeing him on TV for the first time years ago.  My reaction was:

"wow!! that guy is really good!.... Yea he's really really good!!.... .....  this music is crap." 

I have that with a lot of of very amazing guitar players.
Not that the music "crap" per se, but that the band, the songwriting, vocalist, etc just doesn't have an ability to put it all together.
I recall someone turning me on to Steve Morse--who is PHENOMENAL, and he played me a couple sections of tunes, so soon after I went out to buy some of his stuff, and I found that outside some of  amazing 1 or 2 minute sections, the rest of the record was pretty uninteresting. And I almost always try to give something a second or third listen.

 

[TonyFlyingSquirrel]

For me, Slash is an acquired taste, and only for so long. 
I'm not one who can sit & listed to Appetite back to back as a whole album, just not for me.
I like parts of Use your Illusion, but same thing.  Some singles are cool, but as a record as a whole, I can't just sit and enjoy it like I can Dark Side of the Moon.

On Steve Morse, just watched a live DVD on Flying Colors and this was some stellar musicianship, and just good songs overall by this collection.

 

[aarontunes]

I recall someone turning me on to Steve Morse--who is PHENOMENAL, and he played me a couple sections of tunes, so soon after I went out to buy some of his stuff, and I found that outside some of  amazing 1 or 2 minute sections, the rest of the record was pretty uninteresting. And I almost always try to give something a second or third listen.

Exactly how I feel about SM. Plus, when I met him he was less than cordial to me. Maybe he was having a bad day.

For me, Slash is an acquired taste, and only for so long.  I'm not one who can sit & listed to Appetite back to back as a whole album, just not for me.I like parts of Use your Illusion, but same thing.  Some singles are cool, but as a record as a whole, I can't just sit and enjoy it like I can Dark Side of the Moon.

Exactly how I feel about Slash. Love his tone, feel, and style, but the songwriting has never, ever been there. Even the writing on G&R's two biggest millionaire-making songs is just OK, and that's best it ever got, for me.

 

[aarontunes]

The winners of the final Warmoth Peel n Play Giveaway are: Lenny Sheets of Wilkesboro, NC, and Marc Bareille of Saint Gaudens, France. Congratulations! AND...the results of the Rock n Roll Poll are below. What a fantastic year of prizes it has been...thanks to all who entered, and all who won and made videos. We look forward to seeing these two final unpeeling videos, after which we will compile all the best clips into a single epic video. Warmoth has a LOT more up its sleeve for 2020....stay tuned!!

And for any who may wonder, here are the results of the other entry questions:

Bon - 2,064
Brian - 1,747

David - 2,495
Sammy - 1,273

Ozzy - 2,638
Ronnie - 1,389

 

[swarfrat]

Malmsteen,Vai, Satriani, pick a name, even Keaggy. I think they all kind of ramble a bit when it comes to instrumentals.  It reminds me of some of my teenage airplane designs. The biggest fastest mostest of everything.  Finally I realized engineering is about working within constraints. When you have unlimited everything,(ie what happens when a guitar player with incredible talent locks himself away in solitary confinement with a recorder) noodling happens.