Steve Vai online lesson

[whitebison66]

Disclaimer: I didn't watch/participate in the lesson. But from the sound of it, it was another example of what Cagey says- The ability to do something has nothing to do with being able to teach the doing. Universities often think its great to get 'practitioners' (business, film, etc.) to teach, but it often ends up an unmitigated disaster because these people aren't teachers.

One of the things I really admire about Paul Gilbert is his ability to teach what he does. He can make things understandable, break them into components, and manage to keep people interested in terms of believing they can (eventually) do it too.

Having watched a lot of 'instructional' DVDs (and VHS 'coz I'm old), I can say that PG is far and away the best of the bunch. Some of his peers don't even make sense.

 

[elfro89]

If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
Albert Einstein

Exactly incabass! People who aren't as good at explaining things tend to use more demonstration which is fine, hearing and seeing from a technique perspective is fine and much more beneficial then just explaining how to get technique. His demonstrations and explanations were poor and amounted to nothing short of a large pile of bs, I'm not claiming to be better or know more. But having listened to the wisdom of some amazing players he just doesn't compete at all. For example, Guthrie Govan tackles modes and pentatonic under one bracket amazingly well. Most people obviously know the minor pentatonic, if you know the 5 different 6 string positions and can identidy the root note in each, then all you need to do to play the mode is add the 2 extra notes required to make it so. I've heard Vai tackle this subject before, and like the video here, all he does is babble philosophy with the odd hint that he knows stuff. Which Irritates me. No offence to Steve Vai intended but he could at least have given somebody and idea of what to go away and look at if the broadcast wasn't long enough for him to do so. Instead the viewer goes away having gained nothing more then Steve's personal philosophy.  :laughing11:

 

[Jusatele]

what was Via's personal Philosophy ?

 

[Cagey]

what was Via's personal Philosophy ?

"Worship me."

 

[Doughboy]

what was Via's personal Philosophy ?

I wonder if it's the same as Viv Savage's philosphy

HAVE A GOOD TIME....ALL OF THE TIME

 

[Jusatele]

OK then
I think the guy is great as a musician, but I really do not get into to much of what he does, I find it to sterile and lacking of feeling, but that is me.

I did not watch the lesson, I think I was asleep, do not even know if I will look it up. But I find it interesting that he did this. I mean what does SV have to gain from this record?

so,.... I would like to see what the next shoe to drop is.

 

[AutoBat]

I guarantee it was better than a Yngwie Malmsteen lesson, especially if it was more talking than playing.

 

[Doughboy]

I guarantee it was better than a Yngwie Malmsteen lesson, especially if it was more talking than playing.

There's nothing more entertaining that a lesson with, meeting or seeing an interview with Yngwie. It's always chock full o' comedy. I will never forget the time I met him after the G3 concert. We're still talking about it years later.  :laughing7:

 

[Strat Avenger]

OK then
I think the guy is great as a musician, but I really do not get into to much of what he does, I find it to sterile and lacking of feeling, but that is me.

I did not watch the lesson, I think I was asleep, do not even know if I will look it up. But I find it interesting that he did this. I mean what does SV have to gain from this record?

so,.... I would like to see what the next shoe to drop is.

I agree to some extent, but there are some exceptions to that rule. I love Vai's stuff on the two DLR albums he played on. I also absolutely LOVE "Building The Church" -- it's my favorite Vai instrumental.  The playing is incredible, AND the tone is just plain FAT. Passion and Warfare had a lot of good stuff on it as well.  Aside from that, yeah, I don't get into his stuff either. It's just a little too "out there" for my feeble brain to take in and process.

 

[line6man]

OK then
I think the guy is great as a musician, but I really do not get into to much of what he does, I find it to sterile and lacking of feeling, but that is me.

I did not watch the lesson, I think I was asleep, do not even know if I will look it up. But I find it interesting that he did this. I mean what does SV have to gain from this record?

so,.... I would like to see what the next shoe to drop is.

I agree to some extent, but there are some exceptions to that rule. I love Vai's stuff on the two DLR albums he played on. I also absolutely LOVE "Building The Church" -- it's my favorite Vai instrumental.  The playing is incredible, AND the tone is just plain FAT. Passion and Warfare had a lot of good stuff on it as well.  Aside from that, yeah, I don't get into his stuff either. It's just a little too "out there" for my feeble brain to take in and process.

I bought Real Illusions: Reflections specifically for that track after hearing it on the G3 DVD, and I was extremely dissapointed with the album version, as he did a stupid keyboard synth intro instead of the tapping. :tard:

I was a lot happier with the Where The Wild Things Are version. :icon_biggrin:

BTW, the ending of Building the Church is the same as the ending of Junkie from Flexable.

 

[exaN]

Baaah I only catched the last couple questions

 

[elfro89]

I Love Vai's Stuff, Passion & Warfare - The Ultra Zone Favourite Vai albums.

I think my favourite songs would be Juice & The Blood & Tears

 

[Jusatele]

OK then
I think the guy is great as a musician, but I really do not get into to much of what he does, I find it to sterile and lacking of feeling, but that is me.

I did not watch the lesson, I think I was asleep, do not even know if I will look it up. But I find it interesting that he did this. I mean what does SV have to gain from this record?

so,.... I would like to see what the next shoe to drop is.

I agree to some extent, but there are some exceptions to that rule. I love Vai's stuff on the two DLR albums he played on. I also absolutely LOVE "Building The Church" -- it's my favorite Vai instrumental.  The playing is incredible, AND the tone is just plain FAT. Passion and Warfare had a lot of good stuff on it as well.  Aside from that, yeah, I don't get into his stuff either. It's just a little too "out there" for my feeble brain to take in and process.

I like passion and warfare, cannot say I love it though. But I have to admit it is a great piece of musical work.