Torment Leaves Scars
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Jusatele said:It is interesting to read these post about American Vs Other. We do not hold the market on well made, In fact Ibenez, a very respected name is Japanese and I can remember in the 80s owning some quality Japanese made Fender guitars. I think Cagey nailed it with the fact of the CNC produced parts, I pick up some Mexican made Fender stuff now and am amazed they sell for so cheap.
I prefer American made because of not just quality issues but I want to support my country. I built Barn Door Tele with a Warmoth neck and body not to get around any pricing, but to get what I wanted which I could not find the body/pickup combo anywhere else. I also wanted top quality in the parts. Now I am looking at what may be considered a boutique Es 335 clone, Extremely well made with decent hardware for just over a grand, and with top of the line hardware for 1800 and a super uber neck job. I can afford the just over a grand, made here in Ca. I know that I would pay at least twice this from Gibson with questionable quality.
I think we are at a place in history when technology has given us a few things : places like Warmoth that we can get super nice parts and finishes if we want and assemble our own, Manufacturers that can build smaller numbers and do not have to charge like Boutique did 5 years ago, availability of knowledge and parts like never before. And if we use these we can get product we want. I can say that it has made the difference between American and offshore of the same line look closer each year, and that maybe if we can source the parts and get a quality axe for under a grand paying retail for parts, then we should consider 600 for off shore a bargin and reevaluate the over a grand for mass produced American value.
Just thoughts I came up with reading a few of the last post in this thread.
While I don't want to knock on anybody's product, Gibson quality has NOT impressed me recently. I've seen some VERY questionable issues with detail from them; poor finish, sloppy glue jobs, etc. Just as a first impression from looking at these guitars on the wall, I haven't even had any interest in sitting down with them; I just walk by them.
I have stubby fingers, and it's difficult for me to find a neck that feels just right. I played an Ibanez RG1550 Prestige, or something (I can't remember...), but it was PERFECT. This thing felt like it would play itself! Imagine my surprise when I found out that the neck I had ordered was actually the same style/radius as the one on that Ibanez I played! :hello2:
I wanted an American custom guitar. I wanted a guitar "built for speed." When I set out to have a guitar built, I had one thing in mind; METAL. I didn't care what it sounded like clean. I didn't care if it was a one-trick pony. All I wanted was the "ultimate Metal" guitar.
So, I got my "ultimate Metal" guitar, and imagine my surprise when I flipped on the clean channel, and the thing sounded AMAZING! :cool01: The only thing I was after was a tone similar to that of either George Lynch, Chris Holmes, or that of the Strat in Motorhead's "Ace of Spades." Plain and simple, this guitar has it all, IMO. It looks aggressive, it sounds heavy, and the clean tone is great.
I think I already mentioned this, but it plays like a Fender, feels like an Ibanez, and sounds like a B.C. Rich. Ironically enough, it possesses each of those exact qualities of each manufacturer. arty07: NOBODY was offering that combo.
As for the "quality finishes" that Warmoth puts on their guitars, I've read the Forum Rules, so I'll just keep my mouth shut. I'll just say the finish of the neck is gorgeous. I'll simply just hold my tongue about the finish on the body.