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questions about gibson custom shop 2002 inspired flying v w/ pics project

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itd be easier to look at this webstie as there are a lot of pictures: http://www.flying-v.ch/customs/fc_02lp/fc02lp.html im looking at making a V that is very very very similar to the Tobacco Burst model. so my questions are, does anyone know if there is a cover that'll fit the Warmoth Recessed Tune-O-Matic with String-Through Body Mounting with arched stringing. also, what type of pickups should i get? im looking to make it sound like a Gibson 1975 Les Paul Custom. also, for the headstock, can they finish it black for you? im trying to get it to look as similar as the original as possible.

 
I'm pretty sure you could make something that would look 99% like this just with Warmoth parts. You can ask them to paint the headstock black but there's an upcharge I believe. For the cover I think you'll have to get a custom plate made, but I could be wrong.
 
zompocalypse said:
ok and pickups? should i go with some duncan antiquities?

Never tried those, I know that the SD 59 + JB combination is pretty much always a winner in my book. You could also go with 2 Dimarzio PAF 36th or 2 Dimarzio Air Classics.

Other members are a lot more experienced than I am with pickups though.
 
That should be no major problem to achieve with Warmoth parts :icon_thumright:

As for pickups - just throw a rock and you'll hit someone who makes PAF type pickups, Big Name or hand made cusom shop. Pick a price point and see which maker makes the most sense to you.
 
Just a couple of points to consider.

1. The arched string ferrules may not be the same arc as the big plate that is on that V that you highlighted. So if your plan is to get a Warmoth V with the arc string ferrules and then put ona  V cover plate , check that the string spread and radius of that arc is the same on both the body and the plate. Alternatively, you could always get the Warmoth body made up then make your own plate if you ahve the machinery and skills - or know someone who has.

2. While Warmoth will do a  Black headstock, they won't do a binding on the headstock. The custom livery for LP Customs has the binding on the black headstock.
 
kboman said:
That should be no major problem to achieve with Warmoth parts :icon_thumright:

As for pickups - just throw a rock and you'll hit someone who makes PAF type pickups, Big Name or hand made cusom shop. Pick a price point and see which maker makes the most sense to you.

For those who don't know, PAF stands for Patent Applied For. It generally takes years for a patent application to be approved, and Gibson wanted to manufacture the newfangled humbuckers and sell them. So, they put stickers on the pickups that said "Patent Applied For", which meant they were unique and couldn't be had from anybody else. They became known as "PAF" pickups. They were eventually awarded the patent, and of course not only continued making that style pickup, they also licensed others to do it.

That patent has long since expired (It was issued in 1959, but applied for in 1955, so the 17 year term was up in 1976) but there's a strange desire in the market to associate that awkward name with some humbuckers to satisfy some musician's demand for crummy pickups. So, PAF type pickups are made by everybody with $50 to invest in a cheap winder because they're easy to make. Just underwind them, and don't keep track of the number of winds or the type of magnet used. In other words, they're about the weakest, sloppiest, most inconsistent pickups ever made. Why anyone would want anything but an actual original one for anything other than museum display is beyond me. It's the original PAFs, and even the ones that came after the patent was awarded that put guys like Seymour Duncan in business.

I remember when me and my buddy were just teenagers back in the early '70s, we used to collect up old humbuckers out of old guitars and take them apart. We'd measure the coil resistance, and either match up hotter windings with like hotter windings to balance them and get higher output, or actually add windings to some to balance them and make the whole thing hotter. It was tedious work, but back then we didn't have any choice. Seymour Duncan, Dimarzio et al had yet to start making pickups. If you went to a music store to buy a pickup, assuming you could even find loose pickups to buy, you bought either Gibsons or Fenders. It wasn't until the late '70s before an aftermarket started up at all, and even then there wasn't really a whole lot of choice for the next 10 years or so.

Today, as everyone knows, it's insane. Trying to pick out a good pickup is like trying to find a good cockroach to race. There are a million to choose from, and too many external variables involved that will affect their performance. Makes it tough for anyone's opinion about how they sound to carry a whole lot of weight.
 
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