New Mooncaster Options

[Axkoa]

As this hasn't been posted yet; there are new Mooncaster options in the custom builder!

Enjoy: http://www.warmoth.com/Guitar/Bodies/BodyBuilder.aspx?style=92

 

[Logrinn]

Good catch.
Aaron spoke of this, but it's cool to see that it's now in place.
I noticed that a pickup route choice that's now available for the Mooncaster is one called P90 stacked. I had a look around a found it on the VIP build as well. Don't know if it's been available on that before. I hope we will see it on more models.
Always fun finding new options on the Warmoth page.

 

[BigSteve22]

Just took a quick look at the new pup routs. Nice that a TV Jones options is available, but it looks like the width for the "with ears" option is too narrow for a TV Classic with the universal mounting ears. Pickup width is 3.330" across the ears but the rout is only 3.225". Am I missing something?

???

 

[fdesalvo]

I wish I liked some of these iterations of classics.  It just looks a bit melty on the lower bout.

 

[Cagey]

Nice that a TV Jones options is available, but it looks like the width for the "with ears" option is too narrow for a TV Classic with the universal mounting ears. Pickup width is 3.330" across the ears but the rout is only 3.225". Am I missing something?

I don't know. I put together a Mooncaster w/ TV Jones Classics recently and didn't have any trouble. I can't measure anything now because it's assembled and I'm not taking it apart, but if I'd have had problems I'm sure I'd remember it.

 

[TBurst Std]

Nice that a TV Jones options is available, but it looks like the width for the "with ears" option is too narrow for a TV Classic with the universal mounting ears. Pickup width is 3.330" across the ears but the rout is only 3.225". Am I missing something?

I don't know. I put together a Mooncaster w/ TV Jones Classics recently and didn't have any trouble. I can't measure anything now because it's assembled and I'm not taking it apart, but if I'd have had problems I'm sure I'd remember it.

Were they the English mount as the TV Jones route is new.

 

[Cagey]

I don't know. How can you tell? The only thing I remember is having to attach the mounts, not that there was anything unusual about them dimensionally.

 

[Glimmer]

Seriously jonesing to make one of these but just cannot justify the cost at the moment (so I grit my teeth and squint when I see stuff like this...)

 

[T89Rex]

Nice that a TV Jones options is available, but it looks like the width for the "with ears" option is too narrow for a TV Classic with the universal mounting ears. Pickup width is 3.330" across the ears but the rout is only 3.225". Am I missing something?

I don't know. I put together a Mooncaster w/ TV Jones Classics recently and didn't have any trouble. I can't measure anything now because it's assembled and I'm not taking it apart, but if I'd have had problems I'm sure I'd remember it.

Were they the English mount as the TV Jones route is new.

They were Universal mount pickups going into a Warmoth humbucker rout. I'm not sure that TV Jones make the English mount anymore.

I checked all the measurements before I ordered but I can't seem to find the dimensions of the Warmoth humbucker rout anymore.

EDIT: Found it. 85.85 mm (3.38").

 

[cogswick]

I've been holding off on building one of these because I really wanted to stick P90's and a baritone neck on one, like the PRS 277. I guess I don't have any excuses not to now.

Now, to Floyd or Not to Floyd...

 

[BigSteve22]

Nice that a TV Jones options is available, but it looks like the width for the "with ears" option is too narrow for a TV Classic with the universal mounting ears. Pickup width is 3.330" across the ears but the rout is only 3.225". Am I missing something?

I don't know. I put together a Mooncaster w/ TV Jones Classics recently and didn't have any trouble. I can't measure anything now because it's assembled and I'm not taking it apart, but if I'd have had problems I'm sure I'd remember it.

Were they the English mount as the TV Jones route is new.

They were Universal mount pickups going into a Warmoth humbucker rout. I'm not sure that TV Jones make the English mount anymore.

I checked all the measurements before I ordered but I can't seem to find the dimensions of the Warmoth humbucker rout anymore.

EDIT: Found it. 85.85 mm (3.38").

Being the TV Jone rout option has only just now become available, Kevin's MC must have the humbucker rout. TVJ universal mount pickups would certainly fit a humbucker rout using rings. Warmoth's "With Ears" option description says "Rout size accomodates ears for through-pickup wood mounting". This refers to TVJ's rendition of the mount used on Gretsch Pro series guitars. (White Falcon, Country Gentleman, etc....) TVJ's universal mounting ears convert standard Gretsch mount, directly through the pick up and into the wood (Like a P-90), to English mount, hanging from the pickguard. I did a chat session with TVJ and they confirmed that, on the standard pickups, universal mount has replaced the standard mount, standard mount with ears, and the dedicated English mount.

This site has a better explanation of the mounting options than TVJ's site.
http://www.brinksmusik.com/TV%20Jones%20Mounting%20Options.htm
It lists both the standard mount with ears, and the English mount, as a separate entities from the standard Gretsch mount, but doesn't mention the universal mount. (Understandable, since according to the certificates, the site has not been updated since Sept. 2015.)

Apparently then, if you intend on using TVJ's with the universal mount to convert them to English pickguard mount, the humbucker rout and a set of TVJ rings is the way to go. If, on the other hand, you intend to mount them directly to the body, the TVJ without ears should work.

 

[TBurst Std]

I don't know. How can you tell? The only thing I remember is having to attach the mounts, not that there was anything unusual about them dimensionally.

The English mount is what I understood was their traditional HB size.

 

[BigSteve22]

I don't know. How can you tell? The only thing I remember is having to attach the mounts, not that there was anything unusual about them dimensionally.

The English mount is what I understood was their traditional HB size.

TVJ's traditional HB size is meant to fit Gibson rings and HB routed pickguards. They are the same dimensions as normal HB pups, 1.5" x 2.75", use normal English mounting, and there are no openings in the covers, as Gretsch pups have.

This is NOT the same as the universal mount pups, which measure 1.375" x 2.813", like traditional Gretsch pups. In addition to mounting directly to the body, like a traditional Gretsch pup, they can be English mounted in a properly routed pickguard or rings. Using TVJ EM2 rings you can get the traditional Gretsch look in a guitar routed for traditional Gibson style HBs.

 

[aarontunes]

Normally I would start a new thread for this, but as expected, you guys have discovered the new Mooncaster options already. So, I'll just post this here:

NEW MOONCASTER OPTIONS! You've asked, and we've heard: expanded pickup and bridge rout options are now available on Mooncaster bodies! Tremolo, TV Jones, and p-90 routs, plus more! Wanna see what yours will look like? Create a mock-up in our Customer Builder now! Go here: https://goo.gl/QiPzqX

 

[Cagey]

Very realistic modeling. If you select to have a hole drilled for a toggle switch, then decide you don't want it, the hole doesn't go away  :laughing7:

 

[BigSteve22]

Very realistic modeling. If you select to have a hole drilled for a toggle switch, then decide you don't want it, the hole doesn't go away  :laughing7:

Gald you said that, I was afraid it was my browser that wouldn't go back on that toggle! BTW, wasn't that a master volume pot on the previous version? I wonder if it's possible to have one of those toggle locations, preferably the horn location, drilled to 3/8" instead of 1/2", so you can install a master volume like on a Gretsch...

???

 

[amigarobbo]

If there was ever a body that needed a 12 string bridge option...

:evil4:

 

[aarontunes]

Very realistic modeling. If you select to have a hole drilled for a toggle switch, then decide you don't want it, the hole doesn't go away  :laughing7:

Gald you said that, I was afraid it was my browser that wouldn't go back on that toggle! BTW, wasn't that a master volume pot on the previous version? I wonder if it's possible to have one of those toggle locations, preferably the horn location, drilled to 3/8" instead of 1/2", so you can install a master volume like on a Gretsch...

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Good catch guys....we'll see if we can fix that.


And yes, the labels of the various controls has changed, to bring it into uniformity with the labels on our other bodies with "LP-style" control layouts. Almost nobody wants that horn toggle, and almost nobody wants the master volume, so we replaced the latter with an alternate toggle hole....which is what gets requested most of the time.

 

[BigSteve22]

Almost nobody wants that horn toggle, and almost nobody wants the master volume, so we replaced the latter with an alternate toggle hole....which is what gets requested most of the time.

Question still remains: For any of us poor misguided fools who played Gretsch guitars many years ago, can the horn be drilled for a master volume if requested?

:-\

 

[aarontunes]

Almost nobody wants that horn toggle, and almost nobody wants the master volume, so we replaced the latter with an alternate toggle hole....which is what gets requested most of the time.

Question still remains: For any of us poor misguided fools who played Gretsch guitars many years ago, can the horn be drilled for a master volume if requested?

:-\

I'll bet with a phone call and the proper amount of groveling (or pizza) you could have that done.


But we will shake our heads disapprovingly at you the whole time we are doing it.