AndyG said:
theklanch said:
Superlizard said:
Yep - a bullet for every low-life, crack-piping-mumblist, POS gang-banger.
Line 'em up and kill 'em all... scum of the earth.
And since we're talking scum of the earth types, put Blagojevich in there as well. :icon_biggrin:
I don't agree with gang mentality. I think they should shoot the mothers of the gangbangers, cause it seems like the only people these bangers respect is their mama.........and Tupac.
Seriously, if all illegal drugs were made legal (I know that crack and heroin are no good for you, but neither is alcohol) these gangs would have no source of income. Take away the legal ramifications of drug use sale and possession, and there is no reason for the gangs to commit crimes. Think about it, if ALL illegal drugs were legalized, you would take the criminal aspect out of the gangs activities, they wouln't need to fight for turf to sell their drugs, they wouldn't need to protect themselves with guns, they could get high all day and not have to go out kill people. I don't know, it is my opinion that this is a major problem in our country, specifically the illegality of drugs. Alcohol prohibition didn't work, it only lasted for 10 years. Marijuana prohibition has now lasted some 70 years and it never worked. You don't hear of people acting like Bugsy Segal and Al Capone over some hooch anymore now do you? But you still hear of people getting shot over illegal drugs. If you could go to Kroger and get an ounce of pot and a teener of blow, don't you think that the criminal aspect of doing the drugs would be gone? I sure do.
Our law makers still will not accept that the previous generation made a huge mistake with making drugs illegal. It is the classic adam and eve story. You can do anything you want, except eat that fruit. What was the first thing Eve did after she was told not to touch the fruit? She went and ate it anyway. It is human nature to defy authority. It is the oldest story ever told.
My opinion and my opinion only.
What a shame to kill a 4 year old to get into a gang.....Such a waste.
Your idea, even though you admit is only your opinion ... has TONS of problems associated with it. If you legalize illegal drugs, who is going to regulate them? We have the issue of drunk driving ... can you imagine driving under the influance of heroin? Right now, another legal drug ... cigarettes, are costing the health care system billions of dollars. Who is going to pay for hospital OD treatments? By legalizing illegal drugs, you just put a larger, more organized gang of criminals, th coorporations, in charge of them.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity .... as that is what the original story exemplifies. The ONLY way to eliminate the gang mentality is to eliminate the gangs.
I do agree with your last statement.
I think the root of the problem in the gang culture is the illegality of the drugs. If drugs were legal, there goes the criminal aspect of what most gangs are all about: drug sales. Why do they fight for turf? For the ability to sell their crack on that particiular corner without competion.
Also I read on this post that there are cops that won't go into certain sections of LA because of gang activity. Well the little piggies are there to protect and serve. Maybe some of "LA's finest" should grow some balls and go in there and cop around a little. I think they tell all the wannabe pigs in pig academy that they might get killed on the job. Well if you don't want to get killed at work, be a freakin paperboy, not a cop, that is their job, to go into places where crime is and fight crime. Not sitting at the Krispy Kreme with the radar gun. Writing speeding tickets is a great way to deter violent crime now isn't it?
Maybe drugs don't need to be regulated at all. That was my point. I don't want to see people driving all faded either, but I don't think killing people or "firing up the ovens" is gonna solve anything. What about personal responsibility? I smoke cigarettes, and if I get cancer it is my own damn fault, isn't it? Or should I blame the government for not making tobacco illegal? I think if you OD on drugs, they shouldn't be obligated to save your stupid ass. How many times does some junkie get dropped off at the ER only to wake up as a turnip? More times than you would realize. I do agree with your statement of legalizing drugs puts their control into a more organized gang, corporations and what have you. I don't know man. I am a casualty of the "war on drugs" and I have the scars to prove it. I wasn't physically injured, but do a pre employment background check on me and I look like a veteran that earned a couple of purple hearts. I aspired to be a high school shop teacher when I was younger, then I got busted with pot and now I can't do anything like that, cause the commonwealth deemed me as a threat to children, all because I got caught with a little grass. So I can blame all of our socio-economic problems on drug prohibition. If they ever do leagalize reefer, what is going to happen to all of the people convicted of marijuana crimes? What about people who are currently serving hefty sentences right now for pot? This is why marijuana specifically will not be legalized in many states now, they make too much money on it being illegal, and furthermore there would be a ton of lawsuits from convicted marijuana dealers etc. I know if PA ever legalized pot or if the feds did, I would go back to school and go to law school so I could sue the pants off of every state and the fed government on behalf of every convicted marujuana offender out there. I never said my idea was a particularly good idea, but it is different than what is going on now. Think about it, where do most gang bangers get their money? From drug sales. I don't think gangbangers are selling Avon. Look back in time at the golden age of gangsters, the prohibition era. When the gov't figured out the law didn't work and repealed the amendment, well that kind of took the revenue out of the bootleggers pockets and put it into the states pockets.
If our government would decriminalize marijuana specifically and sold it at the grocery store, the revenue from marijuana sales could pay off the national debt within 3-5 years. But how would the powers that are feel about paying their debts from the proceeds of marijuana taxes? IDK I take the "pursuit of happiness" line in the declaration of independence pretty literally (which was written by a hemp farmer BTW) Funny how hemp was there in the beginning, and really all of our patriots back in the 1700's were all pretty much drunk all the time, water purification wasn't even a thought back then, they all drank alcohol so they wouldn't get sick
I get pretty irate when it comes to the topic of drug legalization. In fact I don't agree with legalization at all per se. I like to use the words decriminalization and deregulation. Marujuana is a plant just like a tomato. How many governmental regulations are there on the use sale and possession of tomatos? I think they should treat pot like your average garden plant.
Sorry for the hijack, it really saddend me to hear about the senseless killing of a kid to prove that someone was cool.
Again, my opinion. Dumb as it might be, it is my opinion.
"They say that Cain caught Able rollin loaded dice. Ace of spades behind his ear and him not thinking twice"
As long as there are more than two people on this planet, murder will always be in our reality unfortunately.....
I'm done with the political and social posts, they get my blood pressure up. I'm gonna stick to guitar talk (unless of course something strikes a nerve again)