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In fairness, most of Slash's recorded stuff wasn't on a Gibson Les Paul.
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Daze of October said:
Yeah it's been in my top 5 somewhere since it came out. I wouldn't even go so far to call it especially original, it was just a solid heavy rock record done right from beginning to end in an age of singles and bad power ballads. They were your classic hungry LA rock band and it showed in all of their songs then. Of course once they made millions of dollars and weren't starving it fell apart.
As far as Slash, while I like his playing, I more loved how he fit the overall band that GN'R was on that record. Besides some solid solos there's some really nuanced rhythm and some simple little arpeggiated chords everywhere that really came through. He just had a knack for playing the right thing at the right time and it works, as did Izzy, and there's always something to be said for that.
And for my money, the cleaner that guy's LP was, the better it sounded. The solo on the acoustic-version of You're Crazy is still one of my favorites.
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jay4321 said:
They'll probably sell out. It doesn't matter whether or not you like something or place any value on it. As Ben Franklin famously said: "The worth of a thing is the price it will bring". That's really the end of the discussion. You can piss and moan all day about the relative value of something, but the only way to know is to put it up for sale and see what it will go for. At that point, you know. EBay is a bajillion dollar company now because of that philosophy, and they just collect the crumbs. One man's trash is another man's treasure.
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Cagey said:
Exactly. I played an Aria Pro II "PC Series" or something, which was their "Les Paul," and it played circles around any LP I'd EVER played.
Just as a side note, this was a neck-through guitar and had an asking price of $600. The attention to detail far surpassed anything I'd ever seen on a Gibson product.
Kinda sucks when other companies build better "copies" than the maker of the original. Gibson is the Chrysler of the guitar world. They may design something but everybody else does it better.
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Yeah. I bought one of the better Agile Les Pauls a couple years ago and was astounded. Not just me, either. I had actual Gibson fanatics practically crying in their beers. I mean, they are some nice pieces. And I mean seriously nice. These weren't copies, they were originals. Les Paul himself would have been favorably impressed and proud to put his name on them. Why anybody would buy a Gibson while those are available is something of a mystery, for which the only explanation is the general public is unaware of them. But, I gotta think that anybody who works for or depends on Gibson would be embarrassed by these things. Or, of course, anybody who's bought a Gibson Les Paul. That's gotta hurt.
There is a good chance that I would have liked or at least tolerated GNR if they had a different singer..
I could never stand that nasal squealing voice.. not to mention his arrogance, his annoying stage act and his face.
but they did have some songs that had potential.
I could never stand that nasal squealing voice.. not to mention his arrogance, his annoying stage act and his face.
but they did have some songs that had potential.
Jusatele said:
At the time there was a lot like it.. I always considered them part of the whole sleaze rock thing of the mid/late 80s
I remember the way MTV was hyping them (which is probably the reason they got big) and I totally didn't get it.
Also, Slash should work a little on the way he looks.. he is now just a caricature of himself.. It won't hurt his career now if he takes of that hat and sunglasses for a change.
did you know that he doesn't really exists? he is based on a legend from the Netherlands, and his original name was Vunterslaush
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There may have been a big sleeze rock scene going on, but Appetite was way bigger than that.
Appetite hit like a bomb and it has proven to be one of the top rock albums ever.
you can say what you want but that is a fact.
Denying that, well, how much respect you want in your opinions.
Appetite hit like a bomb and it has proven to be one of the top rock albums ever.
you can say what you want but that is a fact.
Denying that, well, how much respect you want in your opinions.
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G&R was one of those bands I never truly could wrap onto. I knew there was a large Aerosmith influence, but, as a big Aerosmith fan, I don't really hear it so much. Axl always sounded like someone gasping when he sang, and Slash really doesn't seem to live up to the hype that the world has given him. I don't know what it is about his tone, or the fact that it is his tone, that throws me off. To me, it always sounded like someone trying to copy the sound of dialing telephone numbers with a Les Paul and a Marshall. Plus, he never seemed to divert from that formula throughout his career. I think he could have had fun adding a little versatility by plugging in a Strat at least once in a while, like his idol, Joe Perry does.
Are you kidding? Slash's tone is an LP into a Marshall. How can you not like that? Stick to the squier into the line 6 then. FWIW Slash used to play shredder guitars before he got the LP. He sold his gear for dope so he needed something to record with. You must not know much about his gear because on the Use Your Illusion there's some 6 string bass he plays, some Strat stuff as well. On the Velvet Revolver stuff Slash actually played strats and other guitars too. I'm pretty sure there's a Vetta head or something lime that on there too. Dave really had Slash trying new things.
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AutoBat said:
Here's a bit of his collection:
Honestly, I never knew that he ever picked up a Fender. When you look at the collection and see nearly nothing but humbuckers, you get the hunch that he sticks with nearly the same thing, at least in the studio for the most part.
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He's quite the B.C. Rich Floyd guy too.
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Cagey said:
I'm admittedly a total gear snob, and I just can't ever see myself owning an Agile. I've never played one so I can't say they're great or they suck, but given their super-low prices and the way their dealer network is laid out, I'd be extremely apprehensive about buying. I continuously read peoples' good reviews about them, so obviously one of these days I'd like to play one.
Daze of October said:
I played a couple of them in pawn stores.. (not amplified, so I can't say anything about how it sounds)
I would get one over a Gibson.. not because it is better than a Gibson, but because it is better value for money compared to a Gibson. it feels a bit plastic-y, but it is well made for a Korean guitar. not like one of those chinese guitars that rip open your fingers with those sharp fret ends.
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Super Turbo Deluxe Custom said:
It's quite common to see him with a B.C. Rich Mockingbird. People just associate him with a Les Paul because of all the videos he's been in with them, not to mention the fact Gibson's given him a signature Les Paul.
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Meh, I'm not big on Korean-made guitars, either. They always have a tight feel to the strings or something. I dunno what it is but something just isn't right about them, and it's across brands, not just one particular brand. :icon_scratch: As for Chinese-made guitars, I have a Jackson JS32 Warrior that was made in Indonesia, and it's surprisingly decent. It ran me $400 but I'd put it up against a $500 or $600 guitar any day. While it doesn't have a whole lot of "fireworks" as far as trim, it's a very decent guitar for the money.
Marko said:
There was nothing like Appetite, "Sleaze Metal" or otherwise. Appetite was the record for everybody. It was cool to like GnR if whether you were a guy, girl, teenager, adult, headbanger, or just a fan of Rock N Roll. Even the "hip-hop" crowd gave GnR respect.
As for the hat and sunglasses, it's his image. Jimmy Hendrix would probably still be wearing the "Butterfly" outfit. Hell, if you wanna get real particular, take a look at Bootsy Collins! The fans want to see Slash in a tophat and sunglasses, not a Hugo Boss suit.
IMO, the true "weak link" in the band, aside from MASSIVE drug use, was Axl Rose. He has a "love it or hate it" voice but I'm just somebody who accepted it. They were a lot bigger than the music. They were the spitting image of the "Rock N Roll lifestyle." They lived the sex, drugs, and rock n roll and made no apologies for it. They didn't hide it. They had the "If you don't like it, f**k you" attitude and people latched on to it. They struck a chord with the people just like Stone Cold Steve Austin struck a chord with people with the whole "Austin 3:16 says I just whipped your ass" gimmick. Nowadays, Stone Cold Steve Austin is every redneck's patron saint. Even people who didn't watch wrestling knew who Stone Cold Steve Austin is/was, whether he/she wanted to or not.
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pabloman said:
Yeah, no kidding. A Les Paul into a Marshall can make '60s bubble gum rock sound like a blatant invitation to consequence-free sex. It's just irresistable. Of course, you can do that with a Strat into a Marshall as well. I guess what I'm saying is everybody should own a tube-based Marshall stack at least once in their lives. It ruins you forever after, but it's good for the economy because you buy amps one after another trying to get that sound/sensation back.
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