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How to sound like Eric Johnson

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Aside from making sure the batteries (not AC adaptors) in your pedals are properly aged, the proper finish on your maple necked strat can breathe,  the right magnet wire, turns, aged and staggered magnets....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smwQafhNU6E

Or you can just pull out your SG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZiAVI13ky0
 
There's a difference in character there, but it doesn't really impact the tune. Still a fine piece of work.

What's more notable is that he does it equally well on the SG or the Strat, considering they're different scale lengths.
 
There is, but there's also a difference in tone in some of the other videos where he's playing what might be the same strat.  I mostly just found it interesting to see a die hard strat icon being himself on a radically different guitar.
 
He has quite a 335 fetish too.

But it funny to hear all the stories about him, many untrue and exaggerated, and see the gear a perfectionist chooses to play.
 
When I saw EJ on the G3 with Satch and Vai, he played at least two different Strats, an ES335 and one other that I thought at the time was a Daneelectro. Thinking back on it, it may have been something else. Ha. I was poor at the time and couldn't afford tickets close enough to tell what the heck he was playing.

I saw him again later, headlining a small club near LSU, and that night he played just the main sunburst Strat, but also the 335.

For what it's worth, IMHO, when you get to that level, it doesn't matter what you're playing. You just sound like you.
 
MikeW said:
For what it's worth, IMHO, when you get to that level, it doesn't matter what you're playing. You just sound like you.

Perzactly.

And it doesn't matter what level you're at; you always sound like you.

I had excellent seats and got backstage passes to see EJ in Grand Rapids, MI  to meet him after the show. Nice guy. Totally devoid of all the ego baggage that much lesser players are weighed down with. If you met him on the street and didn't know who he was, I doubt he'd advertise his profession or standing in it.

Myself, I was starstruck and could barely speak English <grin>
 
How to sound like Eric Johnson, in three easy steps:


1.  Emerge from Ma Johnson's womb.


2.  Practice.


3.  See 2, above.
 
Bagman67 said:
How to sound like Eric Johnson, in three easy steps:


1.  Emerge from Ma Johnson's womb.


2.  Practice.


3.  See 2, above.
Rinse, repeat... :icon_biggrin:
 
I met him at a seminar back when Tones came out , very down to earth and easy going , yes he is a perfectionist , but only to the extent that he likes to use what experience has taught him .
are any  of us really any different?
 
Ummm go to guitar center on saturday morning and you'll realize how different he is.

It's kind of funny - I love his  lyrical / vocal tone and phrasing - but right now the thing I'd most like to adapt from his playing is his arpeggiation. I'm really beginning to understand  it as the key to "how to play lead guitar in a rhythm guitar role". Actually that's probably the best description for this concept I've encountered yet. Creating motion and interest in a supporting part.  I remember a guitar teacher years ago asking me about players I liked, trying to see where I wanted to go, and deciding to focus on scalar approaches to playing. And it's great for melody roles (be it vocal or instrument solos), but the harmonic key (there are strong rhythmic aspects as well) to busy rhythm guitar is keeping it grounded in the chord - arpeggiation.
 
I was living in Austin when he started to blow up big, in fact he rented practice space at the same place as a drummer I was playing (bass) with. He was sort-of just one of the guys, but EVERYBODY knew he could blow up big, especially after SRV did. He was adamant about getting his own sound, so one thing you don't get is a sense of how versatile he is. He could sit in at Antone's or the Continental Club and play all slimy Texas blues, even out-slime SRV or Jimmie Vaughan, but he could also do a dead-perfect Chet Atkins tune. Or Hendrix. Or George Benson. Or Andre Segovia. Or Doc Watson. Or Keith Richards... he could have moved to Nashville or Los Angeles and done the whole studio geek thing perfectly.

One major hallmark of his style is big chord voicings, only three notes but spaced really wide. If you can visualize the E major scale, play the note closest to the 2nd fret on the sixth string, the fourth string and the second string, then move up to whatever position works well, like the 4th fret. It's sometimes called "octave displacement", which actually means playing 1-2-3-4-5-6...etc. but jumping around octaves.

And every so often a magazine will run their feature article "SECRETS OF ERIC'S TONE!!!" and they'll get the clean Fender and the gritty Marshall and the howling Dumble and the George L's cords and the Dunlop Jazz III's and the Fuzz Face and the Strat all right, because they sell ad space to people who make that stuff. But what they didn't tell you about, for the first few decades at least: the $20,000 or so of high-end Eventide and Lexicon rackmount stuff that goes in between the amplifier mikes and the soundboard. And the same held true for THE SECRETS OF STEVE MORSE'S TONE!!!" (They're good friends, BTW.)

The racks of Lexicon and Eventide processors were used to actually construct custom short delays to manufacture their own reverbs and a bit of modulation/chorus. And when you stomp on an EH Cathedral or Hardwire RV-7 in the year 2013, an awful lot of what you hear goes back to those sounds that they constructed one little delay at a time, all the foldbacks and circular signal routing. And after those guys pretty much wrote the book on solo guitar hero/god tone stuff in the mid 80's and because they were friendly guys, it ran from Johnson-> Alex Lifeson, Morse -> Satriani, Satriani-> Vai etc. and then blooey all over the place like a whole herd of puppies with diarrhea, and now Santana need four amps to play his three notes and Kemper and Ax/Fx will polish the doorknobs and shine your shoes too.

 
There are some old geezers in this area that cut teeth with the Austin and Dallas crowd, but never went anywhere.  They'll be the first to tell you they should have deviated septums from their money going up their nose, and a good decade or 2 they just don't remember.  But in all that, they know great licks, and they know who's licks they are.  It's funny to watch them raise an eyebrow and do a tisk tisk look at each other when they steal each others' tricks.  One of these guys is said to have an Eric Johnson sound with his phrasing, very chordal.  He has his sound, but not his sound.  That is, different gear and overdrive/gain preferences, but all the taste and phrasing.
 
I think EJ is a fantastic player and do love most of his music. But I also think his sound in general is borderline bad. Maybe only supersede by Vai in that genre.

I think Andy Timmons and in some cases Satriani are the ones to make things sound good.

 
SustainerPlayer said:
I think EJ is a fantastic player and do love most of his music. But I also think his sound in general is borderline bad. Maybe only supersede by Vai in that genre.


I'm actually with you on this one - so much of Johnson's recorded work is so wet that you can't always hear the attack on the notes.  That may or may not be the point as far as his preference goes.  But the precision I find admirable in his playing is often buried in so much delay and reverb and echo and sonic-spectrum-clogging sludge that my ear gets fatigued finding the actual line he's playing.


In re: Vai - well, I like a lot of his tones, including that big, loud, mid-rangey lead tone he gets.  But some of his stuff is a little "acquired taste," which is often code for "ugly in a not-artistic way".







 
Funny, but live, when he's really got it cranked, I think EJs tone is really great. Clear and articulate, but stinging and full of sustain as well. His recorded sound leaves a lot to be desired though. To me, it's a bit nasally and not at all what I would go for.

I bought Vai's new amp, the Legacy 3, just so I could get close to that great mid-rangey tone he's got. And that amp's got it all over. But I guess that's an acquired taste...
:laughing7:
 
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