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Ever try moving to another state?

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I'd would like to get to England & the USA sometime, like to see NASA althou thats a bit quiet now.
But my big fear is your population in the USA scars the hell out of me ….. so many many people !!  :o

DownUnder population just under 23,000,000 with a vast area of land.
For instance England would fit into one of our smallest states, Victoria.

:icon_scratch:  Tipping I just don't understand, never have understood …. 
Sure I do that here in OZ in a decent restaurant that dished up great food. (no not Macca's)  :laughing7:
But that's all !!
Must be something to do with your Taxs or Amount you get Paid there.

Oh well one can dream of a decent Holiday  :icon_biggrin:

I've still got many places here to see too .....

You can go to Montana, only about a million people live in the entire state, I think.
 
I lived in both No. and So. Cali, and moved away twice for work reasons. CA is an amazing state, it's kind of like a different country to itself in a lot of ways. Northern CA is one of the most expensive places in the world though, and the economy SUCKS right now and possibly for quite a while. It's better to get rich elsewhere and then move there. If you are moving to be with your GF, she ought to be willing to let you stay with her, at least till you get your shite together, and if not, is this really the right move?
 
Old hand at moving and long time CA resident

So Cal = Nor Cal (SF area) = So Cal = Vail, CO (Winter) = So Cal  = Indiana (4 yrs college)  = North Carolina = Nor Cal (San Jose) = Nor Cal (South Lake Tahoe)

All the Southern Ca was in Los Angeles. Vail was a winter spent working/skiing. Indiana was 4 years of college.

I've lived in 4 different places in CA: Santa Monica, Burlingame, Morgan Hill, and now a town called Placerville. I've also spent time in over 1/2 the states in the US. What I learned is that while people are different in different places, they have more in common than differences.

It's a tough call but I'd say Raleigh NC was my favorite. Indiana was probably my least favorite. Friggen FLAT . . . I had to take up fishing to have something to do outside.

Moving is a pain, but like Cagey said it's like any other move, just the truck ride is longer. It's also a great experience and I have never regretted a move I have made. EVERYTHING is new for the 1st year (or so). Every road, place to eat, seasons, friends, co workers, etc.

The worst part is the dual tax return you have to do your 1st year.
 
tfarny said:
I lived in both No. and So. Cali, and moved away twice for work reasons. CA is an amazing state, it's kind of like a different country to itself in a lot of ways. Northern CA is one of the most expensive places in the world though, and the economy SUCKS right now and possibly for quite a while. It's better to get rich elsewhere and then move there. If you are moving to be with your GF, she ought to be willing to let you stay with her, at least till you get your shitee together, and if not, is this really the right move?

yeah, its going to be interesting... She knows that She may need to feed me a bit for the first little part, and that I may need to sneak into her Dorms showers (She's supposed to get one for her room of 2 students... so it depends on how much the room mate likes me.)

Ideally, we'd like to move in together once I find stable work/ an apartment. but that's getting ahead of myself there.
 
tfarny said:
I lived in both No. and So. Cali, and moved away twice for work reasons. CA is an amazing state, it's kind of like a different country to itself in a lot of ways. Northern CA is one of the most expensive places in the world though, and the economy SUCKS right now and possibly for quite a while. It's better to get rich elsewhere and then move there. If you are moving to be with your GF, she ought to be willing to let you stay with her, at least till you get your shitee together, and if not, is this really the right move?

It might depend on the exact city, but I think rent is now higher in So Cal than Nor Cal in general.  We had the cheapest one bedroom non-studio apartment we could find in North OC - $985 a month, and our friends were amazed that we found anything for under $1K that wasn't the size of a closet.  It was a fairly decent apartment, but in a crappy part of town on a crowded, noisy street.  In the Humbolt area, you could probably find a rental house or a two bedroom apartment for that.
 
JCizzle said:
You can go to Montana, only about a million people live in the entire state, I think.

A million people, but only 200,000 jobs. Talk about a tough place to live, there's very little industry outside of winter tourism, farming (which won't pay the rent unless you have a massive bit of land), and the oil industry. It's a beautiful place, one of the most beautiful on Earth, but every time I go visit, I come back home very happy to be living in SoCal.

As far as Humbolt goes, I think you'll enjoy it far more than Utah. I have a close friend that moved from Baton Rouge to SLC and wound up coming back after two years. The lifestyle in NoCal will be much more open and accepting. I suspect that you'll find many more connections for your artwork there than in Utah as well.

Good luck to you and your girl. Sounds like it'll be a good adventure.
 
Humboldt isn't exactly San Francisco, Darlin. Great Bass BTW!!!!!!!

hannaugh said:
tfarny said:
I lived in both No. and So. Cali, and moved away twice for work reasons. CA is an amazing state, it's kind of like a different country to itself in a lot of ways. Northern CA is one of the most expensive places in the world though, and the economy SUCKS right now and possibly for quite a while. It's better to get rich elsewhere and then move there. If you are moving to be with your GF, she ought to be willing to let you stay with her, at least till you get your shiteee together, and if not, is this really the right move?

It might depend on the exact city, but I think rent is now higher in So Cal than Nor Cal in general.  We had the cheapest one bedroom non-studio apartment we could find in North OC - $985 a month, and our friends were amazed that we found anything for under $1K that wasn't the size of a closet.  It was a fairly decent apartment, but in a crappy part of town on a crowded, noisy street.  In the Humbolt area, you could probably find a rental house or a two bedroom apartment for that.
 
Ah, that makes sense if that's where you were then.  I don't really think of San Fran as NorCal though.  NorCal is NorCal, the Bay Area is the Bay Area. 

And thanks!
 
yes, California can be divided into many different regions.

San Diego - somewhere south of southern California.
So Cal - LA to Santa Barbra
Central Coast - San Luis Obispo to just north of San Fran
No Cal - from Santa Rosa to the State line
Inland - Bakersfield to Stockton

and I'm sure some folks that are more savvy could break it down from there.
 
vic108 said:
yes, California can be divided into many different regions.

San Diego - somewhere south of southern California.
So Cal - LA to Santa Barbra
Central Coast - San Luis Obispo to just north of San Fran
No Cal - from Santa Rosa to the State line
Inland - Bakersfield to Stockton

and I'm sure some folks that are more savvy could break it down from there.

LOL Classic. True too. Add these two regions and you've got it down.

Desert - Anywhere east of LA and south of Fresno. (Yes, I'm looking at you Riverside!)
Lake Tahoe - that weird ethereal world that isn't quite California and isn't quite Nevada.
 
vic108 said:
yes, California can be divided into many different regions.

San Diego - somewhere south of southern California.
So Cal - LA to Santa Barbra
Central Coast - San Luis Obispo to just north of San Fran
No Cal - from Santa Rosa to the State line
Inland - Bakersfield to Stockton

and I'm sure some folks that are more savvy could break it down from there.

People keep typing No Cal there is no such thing as No Cal it's Nor Cal because anyone who speaks the word says Nor Cal not that a lot of people say 'Nor Cal' it's something you see on the back windows of trucks or T-shirts where it's printed as Nor-Cal or Nor*Cal or something like that.

But people do say "So Cal"

That's a good start on the regions.  But I think central coast stops at Santa Cruz. People in Monterey might say they live on the Central Coast but people in Santa Cruz would say they live in Northern California/Bay Area.

Here are a few images that I think do a good job and for the most part use terms that people in California would use. Though I don't agree with all of them.


In the first one there are no names but I think it does a good job of showing Southern/Central/Northern California. But I don't think anyone in San Diego would say they live in Southern California when describing to someone where they live. They would say I live in San Diego.

The 2nd image is pretty good but most people are not going to say they live in the 'High Sierras' or Gold Country. Gold Country, like Wine Country is a tourist term. People from this region typically say Foothills or Sierras. With the foothills being the front range of the Sierras that has a climate in between the Central Valley and the climate of the higher mountains of the Sierras.

Third one is good but I've never heard anyone say I live in "upstate California". Most people would simply say Northern California.
 

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MikeW said:
vic108 said:
yes, California can be divided into many different regions.

San Diego - somewhere south of southern California.
So Cal - LA to Santa Barbra
Central Coast - San Luis Obispo to just north of San Fran
No Cal - from Santa Rosa to the State line
Inland - Bakersfield to Stockton

and I'm sure some folks that are more savvy could break it down from there.

LOL Classic. True too. Add these two regions and you've got it down.

Desert - Anywhere east of LA and south of Fresno. (Yes, I'm looking at you Riverside!)
Lake Tahoe - that weird ethereal world that isn't quite California and isn't quite Nevada.

Living near Lake Tahoe I totally agree with that!!! People in Tahoe say they live in "Tahoe".
 
I would love to live in Northern California some day!!! - and to my Texan friends, yes, I love Texas, but the area around Dallas isn't exactly pretty....

My first american experience was in California, I went to family in San Diego, bought an old conversion van for $3000, traveled all the way along the coast to Seattle, popped over to Canada for a couple of days, and went back through Idaho, Montana, visited all the big National Parks and Las Vegas. 2 Months later, back in Sand Diego, we sold the van for $2000.
Best Road trip ever!!!

Anyway, North California and Oregon where most impressive to me... Loved the Redwood forest, Yosemite, and especially Tahoe! I like the idea of having all these different landscapes, woods, mountains, beach, desert within driving distance.
I also like the idea of 4 seasons again... but something less extreme than 8 months of summer, and "shoveling snow every day" winters....

having said that, I did not formally do any research on moving there and I don't have any plans to leave Texas any time soon..:)
 
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