EGEN wiring schematic-What do you guys think?


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Hey, just wondering what you guys think of this wiring system for Herman Li's new sig guitar:

e-gen_pu_system.jpg the flip do you think they did it?  :sad:

This is how one guy thinks they did it:
If anyone knows any better...
If you want to use this circuit, the boxes at the top represent the two sides of the VLX91 switch, and the squares are the solder tags. The six small squares are the tags of a push pull pot. Then you connect the leads marked "OUT" to the tag of the volume pot, the lead with the 3 lines in a downward pointing triangle is connected to the pot casing and voilà!
(maybe Ibanez know something I don't, (I hope so...))


What do you wiring guys out there think?
Hmm, been thinking of doing a VIP wired out like a PRS 513 model; that setup looks like it's a dupe...
I'm getting some specs ready for a Soloist(or iceman) I'm going to order, and was just wondering if I should consider doing this for my guitar. Looks kinda complicated  :sad1:
one or two of those positions are redundant depending on what diagram you're looking at.

the  4th on the top one, and the 2nd and 4th on the next one.
I'm not sure but with the pot DOWN perhaps the pickups are in series and with it UP they're parallel, so those ones that look the same might actually sound different...? Not sure though...
do you think you have a use for 9 or 10 combos?

there are a lot of wires to trace there, the diagram looks ok but it would take time for me to go through it and find a better way if one does exist. and you say you know little about wireing, this may not be the best first atempt.

the big problem with series parallel wiring is big volume changes and deciding what pots to use. many people do it, myself included but i find less and less use for that stuff as i learn more about audio electronics.

this type of wiring is more of a way of solving a puzzle than anything useful. you'll learn more keeping it simple and understanding what everything is doing than trying to replicate what that drawing shows.

just my 2cents.
DiMitriR33 said:
do you think you have a use for 9 or 10 combos?

Nope. It would be one of those things that would be "Ha, I have this! Isn't that cool?". You see what I mean? Not to show off, but to be just something to have.

Yeah, I've thought about it too. Not gonna try it. No way. Thanks guys
I'm getting it routed as HSH  :headbang: But, I have no use for tone knobs at all. I never mess with them  :-\ All I want is a volume knob. Could you help with that?
DiMitriR33 said:
do you want to coil tap for the notch positions?

No idea what that meant, so I looked it up.  I think the answer is no. I just wanted 5 way switch with a volume knobby.
so like this but no tone.

all you have to do is delete the tone from the drawing. just pretend that second pot isn't there. simple as that.

also there is an unused solder joint in there. they must use a generic template for this stuff. you only need the one side of the switch hooked up, that wire that runs diagnally on the switch then goes to the volume pot only needs to go to the volume pot. just skip the solder joint in the middle on that wire.

for clarification on the last post, coil tapping is when you cut out a coil from a humbucker to make it sound somewhat like a single coil. it usually doesn't work that well. but you can tap a humbucker and wire it it combo with a single coil usually in parallel to get less hum when you combine them. this type wiring can get you the "quack" sound that a strat is said to have in the 2nd and 4th position.

it can add to the versility of the guitar.

a humbucker in parallel with a single arguably doesn't sound much different than just the single coil. there are technical reasons for this that have to do with inductance and resonant peaks.

two singles in parallel has a greater effect because the inductances match more closely and the resulting inductance in combo is about half of one coil alone. the more closely matched coils also cancel some upper harmonics that radically different pickups wont. the resulting sound is something unique to strat type guitars.

here are an alternate diagram if you are interested:

this one taps the pickups automatically, you don't chose.

if you want to select between tapped and not tapped in the extra positions for some reason seymour duncan didn't post it unless i missed it. if you'd like i can find one elsewhere or draw one up. no garentees as to when though. i'm sure someone else can help too.

Wow, and thank you so very much! :icon_thumright:

EDIT: I'm going to use DiMarzios.....the wire colors won't be the same will they?
probably, but all you have to do is figure out which color is hot, and witch is not, then change the color on the diagram accordingly.
Here's how to figure out a wiring diagram: start at the pickup, and trace the 'hot' wire as it goes, eventually, to the output. Then start over, tracing the 'ground' wire from the pickup to the output jack. Pots only do one thing: they allow some portion of the 'hot' current to go through them from one connector to another, blocking the rest of the current. Capacitors only do one thing: allow bass frequencies through, but not treble. If you take that info and start with a simple diagram like this one:    pretty soon you'll be making up your own diagrams, or at least making a lot fewer mistakes when you wire up your guitar.
Oh, and if it looks like just one wire is coming from the pickup, it's a shielded (braided) wire, the outside is the ground and the inside is the 'hot'.
MicahC said:
Wow, and thank you so very much! :icon_thumright:

EDIT: I'm going to use DiMarzios.....the wire colors won't be the same will they?

generally the "finish" wires get soldered together, north start going to hot south start going to ground.
a lot of this can be switched around and you may want to do so at some time but since you are going for all dimarzio it wont be needed.
Thanks for the help  :icon_biggrin: I think I gots it now, but when I get the actual guitar and stuff if I have anything to ask I'll definitely come here.

In particular:

A lot of times you have to translate the wire colors around, Ibanez & DiMarzio are the same except sometimes a yellow wire is substituted for white - since the blue, green, red & black mean the same thing, it's not too bad. Here's another one, but they fortunately agree:
(there's such a thing as too much information, staring at pictures is a good excuse for not picking up a soldering iron. ALWAYS redraw your own diagram, so you know what's happening.)

The sudden volume changes can actually be an advantage, if you're not wiring separate volume controls for each pickup. If you need different levels for different sections of a song, you've got 'em there somewhere - you have to remember where.... :eek: Tonally, it'll be a lot of fun to dick with and show off to your fellow addicts, but even an audience chock-full of vintage groupies with museum-grade ears won't give a rat's patootie what you've done to your wires, learn to make "rock teeth" too.

(Rock Teeth: clench your teeth, push out your lips, look upwards and wiggle your head) :party07: