HS Wiring

[stratamania]

Can you post some photos of the actual wiring?

 

[stratamania]

See earlier post, I have edited the diagram.

HS Wiring

hi guys, i am again reconfiguring my HS Guitar. Installed is a Häussel single coil with 2 wires and a Seymour Duncan P Rails. I only have a volume pot and a blade switch and was wondering if i could realize this wiring with a tele 4 way switch: 1. humbucker series 2. humbucker parallel 3...

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I have added two simple and obviously needed jumper wires, which I missed when adapting another diagram as I was focussed on the splits and parallel. This should solve the problem of positions 3 and 4 for you. I have added the missing jumpers in blue to your diagram.

In position 5 as you are using a single coil on its own it will be prone to noise and RF as it has no hum cancelling properties by itself.

 

[stratamania]

Here is another version which achieves the same outcome. The layout may be simpler to follow what is going on.

Note: the previous version may be better if wanting to incorporate additional switching post the selector switch, such as out of phase as in this version bridge green and bare go directly to ground. That said, a phase switch for the bridge green and black could be pre selector switch and the bare in this case go directly to ground, bypassing the phase switch.




Switch above oriented as follows.

 

[johnnyj]

thanks alot man, i added the blue jumpers and it seems that it was the missing link. all five positions work now.
only surprising thing is that position 4 is a bit odd. very thin and not noisefree. i had before a 3 way switch for split and another 3 way for pickup select and i remember the split sound hum free and not THAT thin. maybe i splitted the wrong coil in my old wiring and we now know that the p90 side is not in the right polarity with the häussel. the position 3 however sounds great. i assume it would not be an easy operation to re wire the second position to neck + inner coil without destroying everything else right?

 

[stratamania]

thanks alot man, i added the blue jumpers and it seems that it was the missing link. all five positions work now.

Good to hear, it was a schoolboy error on my side. When I adapted the diagram I used for it, I just forgot to add those jumper wires.

If position 3 is correct, then the P Rails is the same in position 4. Perhaps the Haussel if it sounds thin in position 4 is out of phase with the Seymour Duncan. Try swapping the hot and cold wires of the Haussel as if it is out of phase, that should fix that. In position 5 it should also be okay as the Haussel cannot be out of phase with itself.

 

[johnnyj]

heureka, that was the issue! switched the two wires, now position 2 sounds fantastic too! many thanks!!!!

 

[stratamania]

heureka, that was the issue! switched the two wires, now position 2 sounds fantastic too! many thanks!!!!

Cool, I should bill you guys one of these days .⁣ But don't you mean position 4 for the P90 & neck single coil for consistency.

 

[johnnyj]

haha yes, that service would be surely a business and yes, i mean position 4, correct.

 

[Grunfunken]

Hi. First time working with a SD p-rail and am having a little trouble getting things to turn out like johnnyj’s HS setup.
My build is also HS with p- rail in the bridge and a fender tele pickup in the neck, two wire.
Using a 5 way superswitch, I have: 1. Bridge full Humbucker 2. Humbucker parallel 3. Full Humbucker 4. Seems like full Humbucker and neck in series 5. Neck single coil.
I was wanting to have the p90 only at Position 3. And probably expecting 4. To be p90 in parallel with the neck pup.
So, I am asking for help with positions 3 and 4.
I had to reverse the neck pup leads as the initial try gave me position 4 out of phase.
Single volume and tone control.
Thanks

 

[stratamania]

@Grunfunken if you want it the same as the set-up discussed in this thread, then follow the diagram at this post. That should give you what you want.

Post in thread 'HS Wiring'

Oct 4, 2022

Here is another version which achieves the same outcome. The layout may be simpler to follow what is going on.

Note: the previous version may be better if wanting to incorporate additional switching post the selector switch, such as out of phase as in this version bridge green and bare go directly to ground. That said, a phase switch for the bridge green and black could be pre selector switch and the bare in this case go directly to ground, bypassing the phase switch.




Switch above oriented as follows.

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[Grunfunken]

Hi stratamania. Yes, this is the diagram I used. I have tried to troubleshoot my work and understand how the superswitch works, but can’t seem to get the coil split to p90 in position 3 and 4. When I tap test with a screwdriver, both coils are on. Meter measures 18k on 3.
Two things come to mind that I might have done wrong. I have green and bare twisted together and soldered to the switch. Is that correct? And then I run another wire from that same point to ground on tone pot. On the diagram that is the green line.
The other thing is the wire to volume in passes through tone pot first, instead of other way around, not sure if that matters.

 

[stratamania]

Two things come to mind that I might have done wrong. I have green and bare twisted together and soldered to the switch. Is that correct? And then I run another wire from that same point to ground on tone pot. On the diagram that is the green line.

That is not optimum. I also do not know where you have made those connections or any others for that matter.

The other thing is the wire to volume in passes through tone pot first, instead of other way around, not sure if that matters.

Both of those ought to be corrected.

For the rest, my suggestion is to go through the thread again, start once more and rewire as the diagrams given. As you go check all your soldering, jumper connections for continuity and that you have no unintended shorts caused by blobs of solder etc.

 

[Grunfunken]

Thanks, I am going to do that, start over with a fresh switch and follow your advice. Just one more question about the green/bare wire from the p-rail; Is it green only to switch and bare to ground?

 

[stratamania]

Thanks, I am going to do that, start over with a fresh switch and follow your advice. Just one more question about the green/bare wire from the p-rail; Is it green only to switch and bare to ground?View attachment 64124

As that post says.

Note: the previous version may be better if wanting to incorporate additional switching post the selector switch, such as out of phase as in this version bridge green and bare go directly to ground. That said, a phase switch for the bridge green and black could be pre selector switch and the bare in this case go directly to ground, bypassing the phase switch.

The key is above. On SD wiring for humbuckers Green and bare are usually joined to ground. They could both go to one of the terminals of the switch and then use a single covered wire to a common ground point. All your ground points need to have continuity with each other.

If you or someone is doing some sort of other switching than pickup selection as mentioned above, such as a phase switch for the bridge green and black could be preselector switch and the bare in this case goes directly to ground, bypassing the phase switch.

Why? Because the bare wire is the pickup shielding and always goes to ground. If doing something like out of phase, the polarity of black and green get reversed. In which case, the shielding and green wire then needs to be independent.

 

[Grunfunken]

Got it. Thanks a mil for your help and patience. Will tackle it this afternoon. If I can get these wiring issues solved I can get on with the next phase of my build, which is to replicate a pawn shop ‘70s strat deluxe from 2012-13.

 

[Grunfunken]

Success! Thanks again.

 

[stratamania]

Success! Thanks again.

Great.