Cooking one up for Black Dog

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Looking BBQ Hot  :icon_thumright: ... great work !!

All thou, I really liked it just with the Yellow   

 

[stubhead]

The original had much more red - look at the red in relation to the control knobs and bridge and stop tailpiece. And I liked it... :toothy11:

 

[Jumble Jumble]

It does look great, but to match the original it needs more red. Either way it's going to look awesome.

 

[mayfly]

That's perfect. No more red.

I agree.  Another clear example of why Greg is the best.

I'm gonna go play my Jr now.  Or should I play the green/gold paisley?  or perhaps "the blue one" 

 

[Tonar8352]

I almost shot more red on today but chose to stick with were it is at for fear of screwing up a already killer looking guitar, so I scraped the binding and I'm glad I stayed where it is.

 

[dmraco]

I think you are good.  The clear will really change the effect of what you have now.

 

[Cagey]

I think that was a wise move. Considering that there's going to be a bridge/tailpiece and a couple pickups in the middle of that yellow, more red would have been too much. Plus, the white binding has a balancing effect that might not have been as good without a decent amount of yellow in the middle.

I made that mistake with my (sorta) tobacco burst Mahogany Strat. With no pickguard on it, the edges seemed too thin so I widened them. But, now when you put the 'guard on, the burst effect is diminished as it covers most of the lighter center.

I'm still debating stripping it and starting over.

 

[bbl4ck]

Nice...
I like it  :headbang1:
:kewlpics: :rock-on:

 

[Jumble Jumble]

I have to admit I'm a little disappointed that you didn't totally match the original target. That's one of the nicest bursts I've ever seen. Don't get me wrong, it's awesome work, but I was just really looking forward to seeing if you could hit that target.

Anyone saying more red would be too much - I guess those people don't like the target pic, which is fine of course.

 

[Cagey]

I completely forgot about the target pic. I was just looking at the thing on its own merits. Going back to the target, I can see why some might call for more red.

 

[Jumble Jumble]

Yeah, it's a purely personal thing. I think that target guitar is devastatingly beautiful. But that's because it's just hitting my own personal buttons in the perfect combination. If someone preferred a browner burst, I can totally see them thinking the target image is a bit over-the-top.

But hey, I like over-the-top! I put a quickguard on a tele, after all. And I might do it again.

 

[Ddbltrbl]

Tonar, it looks very nice!
Question: if you shoot the red after the black, doesn't it make the black look brown? Particularly if you shoot the red fairly heavy like the example picture? I assume you have some way to avoid that?  :dontknow:

 

[Tonar8352]

if you shoot the red after the black, doesn't it make the black look brown?

If the black is fairly transparent it changes it slightly but the beauty of this is that the colors looks different under various lighting which is the beauty of a burst. If it is shot over a solid black like on a three tone sunburst it only blends the  transition line where the overspray of the black is hazy. Red has very poor color hiding qualities so it does not bury the color it is going over very well. This is what give a sunburst the transitioning effect as the colors melt together. 

I use to not care for sunburst guitars until I started painting them, now I think they are magic looking!

 

[DangerousR6]

if you shoot the red after the black, doesn't it make the black look brown?

If the black is fairly transparent it changes it slightly but the beauty of this is that the colors looks different under various lighting which is the beauty of a burst. If it is shot over a solid black like on a three tone sunburst it only blends the  transition line where the overspray of the black is hazy. Red has very poor color hiding qualities so it does not bury the color it is going over very well. This is what give a sunburst the transitioning effect as the colors melt together. 

I use to not care for sunburst guitars until I started painting them, now I think they are magic looking!

I used to not like them either, they always gave me the impression they were trying to cover up something.. You know like trying to polish a turd...Which would lead to thinking of how inferior the wood or something must be that's being hidden, at least from companies we can't repeat the name..But to buy something from Warmoth raw that one can actually see what he's working with, is a totally different ball game. Especially this one... Very nice Tonar...:headbang:

 

[clearerphish]

more red.

 

[jay4321]

I'd have gone more red too, with the original being so amazing. Don't think you can go wrong keeping it where it is now though.

 

[Tonar8352]

I agree it needed more red so I add more dye to the clear and shot it with a light coat of a stronger blend of red with very nice results. I'm staying here.
With out clear.

The image below is the new color with the more intense red and one coat of clear; the other is where it was prior to the new red being added,. I like it better now.

 

[Jumble Jumble]

Am I right in thinking the red extends further into the centre on the BBQ image? I'm trying to work out what it is that makes it look so bloody incredible.

 

[Tonar8352]

You are right that the red band is broader on the Gibson but not by much. Look at the red is in relation to the back tone knob on both guitars and you will see it is fairly close. What makes that guitar so amazing is the quilt and the way it is book matched. I could make the red band broader but it will never look like that piece of wood. 

 

[alterbridgefan]

What makes that guitar so amazing is the quilt and the way it is book matched.

Dang it, I thought it was the barbecue sauce.