Why doesn't Warmoth make a roasted Mahogany body or neck?

[WindsurfMaui]

Why doesn't Warmoth make a roasted Mahogany body or neck? Is it because the Mahogany grain is more dense than Alder or Ash?

 

[Rick]

Why would you want it.  It's already dark. 

 

[ActualGenuine]

I thought the point to roasting was to make a wood more stable and somewhat lighter, and had little to do with appearance (as nice as some may be)?

 

[PhilHill]

It may amount to a difficulty in sourcing torrified mahogany of the proper size and quality. They have to have a source they can rely on. At a price that's reasonable.

 

[Cagey]

Maybe it doesn't respond well to the process. I can't find the stuff anywhere.

 

[Rick]

Never had a problem with a mahogany necks stability with the thinnest finish. Yes with maple.  That said others will have different experience and will tell my experience is the exception

 

[docteurseb]

I have some scrap mahogany, could try to bake it like I did with maple recently and see how dark it becomes :laughing11:

 

[docteurseb]

Wont' be necessary, seems like it works and darkens the wood like maple:
https://www.unofficialwarmoth.com/index.php?topic=31021.0

I also found some roasted mahogany for sale for necks so it is apparently a thing.

 

[Hendrix]

it more a economic thing , customer need to pay extra for roasted wood need some justification .

for the darker look , this point not really apply to Mahogany as it already quite dark .

for  stability and tone wood part ( I find this point true on Ash and I willing to pay  extra  ) , I think many people has try mahogany but maybe not so obviously.

there some roasted Mahogany neck in the market, but much less than maple .

 

[WindsurfMaui]

I'm assuming that roasted mahogany won't need a finish and necks could be burnished like roasted maple necks. Plus yes a mahogany body would be lighter. I just thought that so many mahogany guitars and necks are sold that mahogany would be part of the roasting family.

 

[Michaelga]

Mahogany has an open pore structure, unlike maple. Even if you burnished it, I imagine it would still have open pores that you would want to fill.

Michael

 

[WindsurfMaui]

  Well you brought up an interesting point. Is Mahogany more open than ash? If roasting is to take the moisture out of the wood if I wanted to fill the pores on a roasted Ash body would it take the fill? If so does that defeat the roasting stability of the ash body by putting moisture back into the body? I saw the red dyed satin finish roasted ash I think) body Aaron used in a recent video and would like to dark fill the pores on a roasted ash body so they stand out more under the red dye but I would finish it with tru-oil rather than a satin finish. I assume I would have to have something covering the red dye and just couldn't stop there. I might want to red dye the headstock of the roasted maple neck I would attach.

 

[Hendrix]

roasted Ash body would take the fill and dye, need to stop  moisture back into the ash body with finish coat .

maple is more density, but I still think roasted maple need clear coat if you in some  moisture area .

 

[BroccoliRob]

yo, do bodies get more stable when roasted? do they NEED to be more stable for some reason?

i thought roasted bodies was about #tone and #color, not for stabilty like roasting necks.

 

[WindsurfMaui]

I thought the roasting made the bodies lighter. I don't know if the color is nicer.

 

[Orpheo]

roasted ash bodies are amazing. If you 'roast' a piece of regular, hard northern ash (that superheavy stuff) you will end up with a lighter piece at the end, which is also more resonant. I see just wins here.