Treble Bleed; Variants and personal experiences?

[Tretgeraet]

Is it legitimate to say I don't like Treble Bleeds because I like how dark and dull the sound gets in a certain range? My guitar just has a Volume Pot, I find it adds nicely to the missing Tone Control.

Absolutely not! It is forbidden in this holy house of thee who seek the treble... No, I'm kidding, of course it is legitimate, you like what you like!

I might add, that if ppl like treble bleeds or not, or which kind they prefer depends highly on the gear they use, what kind of music they play with it, etc... add that to personal taste!

I didn't really notice how much the change to a more linear taper on the volume pot, that comes with the "resistor and capacitor in parallel"-variants bothered me, until I compared it directly. Now I'm tending more towards "resistor and cap in series".

I'm using my volume pot to mute the guitar between songs and to clean up a distorted/overdriven/fuzzed sound. I very rarely use a "clean sound", my "clean" is volume down. With that I like a treble bleed, so that my clean sounds won't sound dull. But with that I also like an audio taper, because otherwise from 10 down to like 6 there happens almost nothing.

Others might have different preferences. Maybe they play mostly clean, or they want the frequencies the same across the pot travel above all else. Or both!

Or maybe they use a treble booster all the time!?

So many different tastes and preferences!

 

[Strat Avenger]

I like how the sound "fattens" up when I back off the volume control, so no treble bleed for me.

 

[Archie Macfarlane]

A lot of people recommend a Kinman treble bleed resistor in series with the capacitor, which preserves log taper a bit better, but of course you can also try a tone control wired to the output of your volume pot, which is referred to as 50s wiring.

This in effect reverses the tone controls dampening as you roll down the volume

Tone after volume so it doesn't see the coils directly

 

[Archie Macfarlane]

David Collins YouTube has a good video on this topic

 

[Tretgeraet]

A lot of people recommend a Kinman treble bleed resistor in series with the capacitor, which preserves log taper a bit better, but of course you can also try a tone control wired to the output of your volume pot, which is referred to as 50s wiring.

This in effect reverses the tone controls dampening as you roll down the volume

Tone after volume so it doesn't see the coils directly

I agree that 50's wiring helps, although it's not as effective as a real treble bleed.

Also, the guitar I talked about in the first post doesn't have a tone control, so 50's wiring was not an option.

I'm testing the Kinman treble bleed at the moment and I think I prefer it.

 

[Tretgeraet]

David Collins YouTube has a good video on this topic

Thanks, that was already shared in post #23.

 

[JohnnyHardtail]

Anyone know anything about the PCB board treble bleed Fender made for the American Professional series? Musically has a supposed replica of it you can buy.

The first generation Pro series from around 2018 had hard wired components, rather than a PCB. The service manual shows the values used.

 

[Archie Macfarlane]

Thanks, that was already shared in post #23.

Looks like you shunts beet me to it! Nice one