Tretgeraet
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There's a tele body in Graffiti Yellow in the showcase right now:
Also, didn't you check the guitar finishes page before ordering?
Second 'build'. - Graffiti Yellow HSS Stratalike
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Also, didn't you check the guitar finishes page before ordering?
stratamania
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@cuthbert you seem to have a misunderstanding of what a pastel colour is. Here is a link with some definitions and examples.
Pastel Colours
Pastel Colours
This is not relevant to the discussion however you can clearly see here that the Rosso Alfa 555 is clearly a pastel color.
Codice Vernici ROSSO ALFA (PASTELLO) 555 per ALFA ROMEO - Carross
Carross, la prima rete online di Vernici e prodotti di consumo per la carrozzeria. Trovate le principali marche di vernici per auto ai prezzi migliori.
www.carross.eu
In the automotive industry all colours that are not metallic or mica are by default "pastel".
Tretgeraet
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In the guitar industry vibratos are often called tremolo and vice versa, because of Leo Fender. That doesn't make it right.
Unlike the guitar industry, the automotive industry doesn't use a lot of transparent colours as opposed to solid colours, which could be a possible explanation for the misuse of the word pastel.
But apart from the link you posted, which is in italian, I didn't see much evidence for your claim.
On the contrary: When I googled for "pastel coloured cars" it showed me cars in colours that look like in the link @stratamania posted, which is also the definition I know.
I mean, there are also black cars and would be very surprised if someone called them pastel...
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There is no single international standard (like an ISO or IEEE spec) that rigidly defines "pastel."
However, in color theory and digital color spaces, a pastel is technically defined by specific ranges within the HSV (Hue, Saturation, Value) or HSL (Hue, Saturation, Lightness) color models.
Technically, a pastel is a Tint. This means it is a pure hue mixed with a significant amount of white.
Here is the technical breakdown of what constitutes a pastel color.
1. The HSL Specification (The Most Accurate Metric)
The HSL model is the standard way to define pastels programmatically because it separates "Lightness" from the color itself. To be technically classified as pastel, a color usually falls within these ranges:
* Hue: Any (0 degrees to 360 degrees)
* Saturation: Low to Medium (15% to 50%)
* Lightness: High (70% to 95%)
The Logic:
* If Lightness is too low (< 70%), the color becomes "muddy" or "muted" rather than pastel.
* If Saturation is too high (> 60%) while Lightness is high, the color becomes "neon" or "fluorescent."
2. The HSV/HSB Specification
In the Hue, Saturation, Value model, the definition shifts slightly but relies on the same principle of high brightness.
* Saturation: Low (0.1 to 0.4 or 10–40%)
* Value (Brightness): Very High (0.8 to 1.0 or 80–100%)
3. The RGB Mathematical Representation
In the RGB (Red, Green, Blue) space, pastels are defined by low contrast between channels and high integer values.
Mathematically, this looks like:
* High Values: All three channels (R, G, B) are closer to 255 than to 0.
* Dominance: The dominant channel determines the Hue, but the non-dominant channels must be high enough to "wash out" the intensity.
For example, a pure intense Red is (255, 0, 0).
A Pastel Red (Pink) adds high levels of Green and Blue to move closer to White: (255, 180, 180).
Summary
If you are writing a script or validating a color palette, a color is technically pastel if:
* It is NOT grayscale (Saturation > 0).
* The sum of RGB values is high (usually > 600 total).
* In HSL, the Lightness is > 0.75 and Saturation is < 0.5.
However, in color theory and digital color spaces, a pastel is technically defined by specific ranges within the HSV (Hue, Saturation, Value) or HSL (Hue, Saturation, Lightness) color models.
Technically, a pastel is a Tint. This means it is a pure hue mixed with a significant amount of white.
Here is the technical breakdown of what constitutes a pastel color.
1. The HSL Specification (The Most Accurate Metric)
The HSL model is the standard way to define pastels programmatically because it separates "Lightness" from the color itself. To be technically classified as pastel, a color usually falls within these ranges:
* Hue: Any (0 degrees to 360 degrees)
* Saturation: Low to Medium (15% to 50%)
* Lightness: High (70% to 95%)
The Logic:
* If Lightness is too low (< 70%), the color becomes "muddy" or "muted" rather than pastel.
* If Saturation is too high (> 60%) while Lightness is high, the color becomes "neon" or "fluorescent."
2. The HSV/HSB Specification
In the Hue, Saturation, Value model, the definition shifts slightly but relies on the same principle of high brightness.
* Saturation: Low (0.1 to 0.4 or 10–40%)
* Value (Brightness): Very High (0.8 to 1.0 or 80–100%)
3. The RGB Mathematical Representation
In the RGB (Red, Green, Blue) space, pastels are defined by low contrast between channels and high integer values.
Mathematically, this looks like:
* High Values: All three channels (R, G, B) are closer to 255 than to 0.
* Dominance: The dominant channel determines the Hue, but the non-dominant channels must be high enough to "wash out" the intensity.
For example, a pure intense Red is (255, 0, 0).
A Pastel Red (Pink) adds high levels of Green and Blue to move closer to White: (255, 180, 180).
Summary
If you are writing a script or validating a color palette, a color is technically pastel if:
* It is NOT grayscale (Saturation > 0).
* The sum of RGB values is high (usually > 600 total).
* In HSL, the Lightness is > 0.75 and Saturation is < 0.5.
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