I got cheap gotoh tuners on my guitar and if I do any full step bends the string will go out of tune. Will Schaller tuners fit the warmoth gotoh/grover holes?
ibob74 said:Schallers are 1/64 of an inch smaller on the backside, should be a simple swap to replace with a slight reaming of the hole.
WarmothRules said:ibob74 said:Schallers are 1/64 of an inch smaller on the backside, should be a simple swap to replace with a slight reaming of the hole.
If the schallers are smaller why would the hole need to be bigger?
-CB- said:Of course, the cheap tuners are not making you go out of tune.
You are :
1. Not stringing up correctly or
2. Have too much winding on the post or
3. Have a tight nut or
4. Are not stretching in the strings correctly or
5. You're not "tuning up" to pitch
One misnomer, is to put a lot of wraps on the post "so it really holds well". This of course, is total nonsense. You want as LITTLE string on the post as possible. One full turn is plenty and a half turn is adequate.... IF.... you string up properly. What happens when you put a lot of wraps on the post - is that the wraps stretch, a sort of bending of the wrap - this will cause lots of tuning woes.
See how little string Frank has on the post? And thats an acoustic where ya don't generally bend. If the string is locked down, you don't need that much on the peg.
Be sure you stretch in the strings by pulling them hard at mid string.
Be sure you adequately "tune up"... when going down in pitch to return up, go down more than you think you need to, so that when you go back up to get the correct pitch, you've taken up the slack in the gears.
Because of their design, all tuners cannot "slip". Its a mechanical impossibility. The tuner knob has a worm gear on it that drives a "ring gear" on the tuner peg. Worms can drive rings, but rings cannot, and never will... drive a worm gear. It just cannot be done, because of the way the gears interact.
Better tuners are smoother. They are a joy to tune with. They are not "more accurate", but the smoothness makes tuning easier (assuming your nut is not too tight). However, no matter the price.......
TUNERS DO NOT SLIP
And cheapo tuners will hold tune as well as any of the expensive ones.
BTW, Gotoh's are good tuners.