Pronounced how?

[hannaugh]

Another problem is that if you use the correct pronunciation while speaking English in America, half the people you're with will promptly decide that you're a huge snob and make fun of you, which is why this South Park scene at Sur la Table is funny: :laughing7:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCUsPsTE7vo

 

[Don]

Another problem is that if you use the correct pronunciation while speaking English in America, half the people you're with will promptly decide that you're a huge snob and make fun of you, which is why this South Park scene at Sur la Table is funny: :laughing7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCUsPsTE7vo

:laughing7: yeah, i know, i actually appreciate the way americans don't bother with the accents, i met some british people that actually went almost ostile when they heard me saying "noh" instead of that weird nasal "noiu" they have to say no.
But at the same time, this tolerancy becomes numbness and in the end, ignorancy.
And that's why Homer Simpson is tragically funny  :laughing7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLVJm7QW3dA

 

[Ddbltrbl]

So Cagey, as always, is completely right.

You didn't really have to tell him that did ya?
It's just going to go to his head!! :icon_jokercolor:  :toothy12:

 

[Jumble Jumble]

When people insist on correct pronunciation of foreign words they're usually still doing it wrong. Bruschetta is a good example - people will say "actually it's brusKetta" - but, being American, they still pronounce the "tt" the same as a "dd" and the "r" how they always to, even though both these sounds would be said completely differently by an Italian.

Then there's this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperforeignism

And of course, as I said earlier, an underlying irony in this conversation is that under these criteria, Americans pronounce pretty much all English words "wrongly" as well - by which I mean, not how an English person pronounces them.

My point is... don't bother. Say them in your own accent, because saying a sort of halfway house is silly, and saying them in a fully authentic foreign accent makes you look like, well, kind of a dick.

 

[hannaugh]

All most of this proves is that language is constantly changing and the "right" way to say anything is relative.  That said, these videos are freaking hilarious, and there are TONS of them because the internet is a never ending supply of people who can't put together a coherent sentence to save their lives (possibly NSFW):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDmz7K385Qw

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

How about Kahler and Schaller?  I say them rhyming with "collar", but I've heard them both rhyme with tailor.

 

[Jumble Jumble]

They both look German to me, in which case The first syllable of "Kahler" would rhyme with how a british person says "car" (ie no audible "r") and the Schaller is just as "shall". But both the "r"s would be pronounced as a slight roll, which you ain't gonna do, so why worry?

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

I'm looking for most accepted as well as correct.

 

[hannaugh]

I have a friend who's last name is Schaller, so I always say it the way he says it, which is the "collar" rhyming way. 

 

[SustainerPlayer]

I'm looking for most accepted as well as correct.

That would be a OFR.  :icon_jokercolor:

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

Original Floyd Rose?

 

[Jumble Jumble]

I have a friend who's last name is Schaller, so I always say it the way he says it, which is the "collar" rhyming way.

Actually you've reminded me that the "shall" thing isn't quite right, so sorry for saying that above. In German their shortest "a" sound is slightly longer than the a in "shall", but not as long as rhyming with "collar" in an American accent (how I say "car" is probably very similar to the first syllable of an American saying "collar").

That "o" in "collar" is kind of the go-to sound for foreign vowels in the US though, huh? That's what I heard on all the trailers for the "i" in "Moulin Rouge" when it came out.

Talking of accents, one thing I saw that I though was amazing was a discussion on Andrew Garfield (a Brit with a natural accent very similar to mine) playing Spider-Man, and obviously he used an American accent for that role. This was a discussion on a US website and I actually saw that process described by someone as Garfield "tamping down his British accent"! Hah! Like all we Brits are "doing" a British accent, and all we have to do is suppress that accent a bit, and underneath it, well whaddya know, there's that American accent underneath all the affectation! By jove.

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

I was thinking about that too.  The English are the only ones without accents, but even you guys can pick out regional dialects.  It's like saying we have American accents.  Which one.  I never hear mine until I leave the south.