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New Tele Project with Mangled Warmoth Neck

Johnny

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OK, so I found this on Craig's List.  I also got a second Strat neck with a fair amount of fret wear and Strat body (non Warmoth) that is probably worthless.  But the Tele has me kind of excited.  The body is decent (again not a Warmoth) but the neck is a raw Goncalo Alves.  The problem is that a prior owner's dog chewed on the headstock.  I'm trying to figure out a good way to restore it to a somewhat decent appearance.  Any ideas would be appreciated!!!
 

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I'd say that's the most authentic relic-job I've ever seen on a goncalo neck.


Seriously, I have no idea what I would do there, but if the neck plays nicely, maybe you just commit to having a really idiosyncratic guitar.
 
Sounds like good advice. That headstock is wrecked. The only thing that would be different about it if it were mine would be the bloodstains.
 
I agree, there is nothing you can do to repair that headstock...
Enjoy the beauty of the natural relic  :headbang:



 
One has been a member of this forum too long when you start to play go fetch the Goncalo Alvez-stick with your dog.

Or this maybe a new sub-trend: Dog-relic'ed. Maybe my Golden Retriever can get a job at Fenders Custom Shop?


I'll leave it as it is. It works and got history. That's mojo.
 
A dog chewed it ....... That bloody funny  :laughing3:

Bet that guitar, would have a real growl to it  :laughing7:

If its just the headstock and not the fretboard or back of neck, should be ok still.
The body looks OK, should be able to do something with that.

Are you sure it was a dog  :laughing7:

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Hadda be the dog!! Damn thing ate my homework, too!!
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A dog chewed it ....... That bloody funny  :laughing3:

Bet that guitar, would have a real growl to it  :laughing7:

If its just the headstock and not the fretboard or back of neck, should be ok still.
The body looks OK, should be able to do something with that.

Are you sure it was a dog  :laughing7:

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Ha!  The only solutions I came up with involved filling or patching the holes and using either a veneer or paint to cover it up.  Neither solution would actually look any better than just leaving it as is.  Anyway, other than the chewed up headstock, the neck looks great except I noticed someone went overboard filing down the last two frets.  The other pic shows the Strat body/neck.  The body is probably not worth messing with but the neck looks good though it does need a fret job.  I see a new Warmoth Strat body in my future.  :hello2:
 

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You could bobbin sand to reprofile the edge a bit & 2 pk clear epoxy fill & paint to match the
body the back you could half lap a new piece on. Tring to find a piece of GA could be a
chore. Ps does that guy work in the Custom Shop?
 
Yeah, I thought about routing out some wood and patching in another piece but I don't think I could ever get another piece of wood to match close enough to look decent. One idea was to distress the whole headstock and fill with something like epoxy. It would look a little different but should allow me to get to something that doesn't look damaged.
 
It's never easy is it?  Actually, when I got all Warmoth parts (or all my parts from Warmoth), it was pretty easy but that hasn't held true for my other projects.  Anyway, the photo shows the body with the bridge (which I got from Guitar Fetish).  The bridge is aligned with the string holes, but you'll notice that the mounting screws don't line up.  The question I have is what is off?  We're the mounting screws not right or is this bridge not right?  I can plug and redrill the holes, but would like to know what's wrong with this picture.  :icon_smile:
 

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After a few months of home remodeling projects and replacing a fence (which nearly killed me), I finally got to finish (for now) the Tele.  I haven't done anything with the mangled neck but may revisit it in the future.  I wanted to get the thing put together so that I could play and listen to it and determine whether or not it warrants more time.

In short, I like the guitar despite the fact that there's still some issues I need to address.  I used GFS Neovin "Power Rock" pickups.  I really like these.  My "amp" is a Line 6 POD X3 Live hooked direct to a PA.  I like the fact that I get a nice beefy Tele twang on the "Black Face" patch and they get pretty ballsy on my "Angus Young" patch.

http://www.guitarfetish.com/Power-Rock-neovin-Noiseless-Tele-Pickup-Pair_p_626.html

This was my first wiring job.  I've done very little soldering but know what I'm supposed to do - just not much experience.  I expected the final result to be pretty rough but in fact it came out better then expected.

The biggest issue from a playability standpoint, is that after plugging and redrilling the holes for the bridge, the bridge doesn't lineup quite right with the pickup route.  This pushes the pickup up and causes the pole pieces on the treble side to not line up with the strings.  I'll need to pull the bridge off and route a little more space in the pickup cavity.

There's also the fact that the 21st and 22nd frets were mangled and need to be replaced.

This is my first guitar with a raw neck.  After hearing everybody rave about them, I got to say I was a little disappointed.  Not that it feels bad or anything, I just didn't find that it felt any better then a finished neck.  In any event, when I go to correct the other issues, I'm going to sand it down with some high grit sand paper and see if my opinion changes.  But for now, I'm just going to play it for awhile ;)
 

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BTW...The jack I bought from GFS was a vintage Tele jack.  Besides for the fact that it was too large for the hole, I had no idea how those things mounted and quickly decided to order an Electrosocket.  You can see that the last picture of the previous post that I just have the jack wired and taped to the guitar so I could play the thing.  The Electrosocket came yesterday and I got it installed last night.  Much better solution!
 
Well, I know what I would do now, if and only if the chewtoy thing still bothers you. It would bother me, it's kind of hard not to see. In the 2nd picture of your 2nd post, it looks like you have pretty much the full thickness of wood behind the front outline. This is a good thing - there are certain really rounded, melty kinds of Telecaster headstock carves, the vintage guys go into spasms over it.

What I would do with it is make it into a 4X2 headstock, with the two highest string tuners over on the other side. Saw off the top and give it back to the dog. You'd have to bag those Kluson tuners and get something small and self-contained, the Gotoh SG-38's that Warmoth sells are great for the money, or the small Grovers, or even some Ping's can be fine tuners, branded or not. The tuners on there are known as “left”, they just are. If you use 6 left tuners, with the two treble side ones you'd actually want the strings to go up over the outside of the posts, and the tuner itself would be closest to the center. It wouldn't be hard to track down a site that sells both lefts and rights, and get 4 and 2. Then the strings would ride up the inside of the head.

It's going to look weird, no matter what you do – so it has to be done really, really nicely. Make up some crap about the vibratory de-tensioning relay waveform or something, better than the shaggy dog story anyway. It will have basically no effect on the playing, tiny differences in string tension and weight distribution is all. I'm not going to go wide and deep on this unless it sounds like something you'd really like to do. In that case, the first thing to do is go to one or another of these two sites:

http://shortscale.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38813

http://www.gitarrebassbau.de/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=6&start=0

Dig up a Telecaster headstock and print out half a dozen. Get your tracing paper, pencils, erasers, crank up some loud but intelligent music...
 
I'd just get a decal made up reading: "Schmacko" and be done with it. Put it in 'the usual place' on the headstock.

Those wondering what the hell I'm on about, Schmacko's are a dog's treat in Australia...  :icon_thumright:

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