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This is one of the more impressive bodies I've seen - just a regular tele, but only around 3 1/2 lb and the grain is super fine and even - I actually don't think I'm going to grain fill. Doesn't have the rough feel of swamp ash I've had before.  I'm going to dye it to roughly match the fb color and do tung or tru oil, or possibly take it out to Oregon later this summer and nitro it in my dad's garage.

Pickups are going to be Lollar - P90 neck, blackface or tweed middle, special T bridge. Woohoo!

Does anyone know a source for ferrules that sit flush and don't need a countersink? 
 
Trust me, I looked for a long time before I made up my mind. There's some on axerus that should work if their specs on the site are correct, but those are the only ones I've found.
 
tfarny said:
Does anyone know a source for ferrules that sit flush and don't need a countersink? 
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Stew-Mac sells em', but they are for a 3/8" hole and Warmoth uses a 5/16" hole...

I just ordered a custom set of ferrules from Bill Callaham that will set flush on a Warmoth. 
They were a bit expensive; he charges $20 for the ferrules + any custom work is always an extra $30.
$50 for a set of ferrules was pricey, but he made what I asked for and I really, really do not like the ferrules sticking out of the back. 
Nice tele, good luck, &  :rock-on:
 
Nice one! If you are going to lacquer it you will need to grain fill it.

Warmoth needs to start counter boring the bodies so the ferrules set flush.
 
C'mon man, break away from the boring, put a Floyd on that beast..... :headbang1:

Nice grain tho.... :icon_biggrin:
 
Anyone have a good suggestion for mixing up a nice orangey golden amber from MEK dye? I have brown and red, I'm assuming I need yellow. Suggested starting ratios for mixes most appreciated.
 
I just want it to be roughly the same orangey-brown that the (kingwood) fingerboard is. Something between Warmoth's sunset orange and vintage tint. Shellac sounds like a real pain, and as you know I'm not really good at complex finishes unfortunately Tonar.  :doh:
I already have red, brown, and black MEK dyes and lacquer thinner as a solvent, and a test board. I think I'm just going to buy MEK yellow from LMI. Just ordered clear waterbase grain fill from stew mac too - I give up, you guys have convinced me to grain fill everything now. I'm not doing the dang sides though! Just top and back. 

Amber = yellow with a bit of brown, right? Then I add a little red at a time till I get about where I want to. I know that tung oil will darken it a bit further as well, if I decide on oil over nitro.
 
I might suggest a less than scientific method...  Make up the yellow dye and then add a drop or a touch of black with a paper towel that has some of the dilute black dye on it.  Add a little red this way as well.  I have the Reranch ethanol dye, and it looks like red, black and yellow dye crystals in there.  Could be tobacco brown, hard to tell.  At least 10 to 1 yellow to the rest.  Not the most reproducible, but it should work...
Patrick

 
Thanks. I find it super annoying to pay $6 for a bottle of dye though and then $8 to have it shipped within my own country, when I know it will cost them $2. Grrrr.
You are probably right, 90% yellow 10% other is the ticket. I'm a total novice at color mixing but at least I've got a test board this time.
 
Quick update: I went with zinsser amber shellac and am going to finish it up with wax. I like the idea of natural non-toxic stuff on this one, no grain fill, and old-school pickups. The kind of telecaster you'd have in your 70's commune, but top-class parts and setup.
This is after two rough coats of shellac, I'll do one or two more, a careful sanding and then wax. I am happy with the color and shellac is great stuff.
What wax? What application method? Love any suggestions.
 
tfarny said:
Does anyone know a source for ferrules that sit flush and don't need a countersink? 
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Callaham

http://www.callahamguitars.com/partstel.htm

...3/5ths the way down the page.

I saw them yesterday because I read a post of yours talking aobut their vintage strat bridge.  :-)



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Tfarney  about your ferrules....  I know that fender used flush ferrules on teles from the factory.  I have seen them and worked on them.  Also a buddy of mine had a G&L with the ferrules you are talking about.  I wanted ferrules like the ones you are referring to, but alas, I didn't have the patience to source them.... So I countersunk the lips of the ferrules on my Jerrycaster, and they are flush.  I used a brand spanking new 3/8" bit and it centered itself nicely on Warmoth's string holes, I had to drill a little deeper than the actual lip of the ferrules which is only about a sixteenth of an inch.  I probably drilled 1/8" or so deep.  I did the same thing on the top ferrules, only I used an awl to open the tops of the holes so my top ferrules are flush with the top of the body.  And your wax question..... I have always used good old Johnson's Paste wax the stuff for floors.  Good looking build bro!!  Keep us posted!
 
Actually Max found me a place in the UK for flush ferrules that I'm going to try soon, I'll post updates if they fit. I don't have a drill press and no frickin way am I going to try countersinking with a hand drill!
 
tfarny said:
Actually Max found me a place in the UK for flush ferrules that I'm going to try soon, I'll post updates if they fit. I don't have a drill press and no frickin way am I going to try countersinking with a hand drill!
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Please let me know when you source those ferrules!!!  They are what I wanted originally!!  I don't blame you for not wanting to do this job with a hand drill.  I have acess to a drill press so it's not an issue for me.  I actually did two of mine with a hand drill and a lot of worry!  Hence the brand new bit!!

I was sitting here thinking I know I said that Fender uses the ferrules you are taking about, but they might be the smaller ones.  And if I'm mistaken (and if I am please correct me) sometimes you can't buy every single part of a Fender guitar separately, so I might have sent you out to chase your own tail.  I don't know, I just know that I have seen many guitars with the ferrules you want!  I wish I could be a little more help...


How did the Stones put it, "You can't alway get what you want, but if you try sometime, you'll find, you get what you need!"
 
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