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AGWANANA-RAMA said:
I despise Floyds. passionately.
probably cause you don't own one.... :doh:



mullyman said:
AGWANANA-RAMA said:
I despise Floyds. passionately.

May I ask why? Just curious as to what your answer is going to be. I don't dislike Floyds as a tremolo but I can't stand ones that float. Total pain in the ass.
MULLY
Uhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmm, they all float...unless you block it up... :doh: :doh:
 
Well, some people will lower the posts/screws and tighten up the spring claw until the thing is tight to the body and can't move without some serious effort. I'm not sure such heroic efforts are necessary, but you do hear about "resting" palms sharping the strings on floating bridges. I've never had that problem, but I'm not so spastic that I influence the bridge while playing.
 
AutoBat said:
Anyone rocking a Floyd with a D-tuna surely isn't floating.
(EVH fans, represent)

That's probably true. But, it's also probably true that they aren't terribly concerned about being in tune, or aware of whether or not they're in tune. If you can't detune 1 string 1 step in a matter of seconds using the tuning pegs, then there are mechanical problems with the instrument or auditory problems with one's hearing.
 
Cagey said:
AutoBat said:
Anyone rocking a Floyd with a D-tuna surely isn't floating.
(EVH fans, represent)

That's probably true. But, it's also probably true that they aren't terribly concerned about being in tune, or aware of whether or not they're in tune. If you can't detune 1 string 1 step in a matter of seconds using the tuning pegs, then there are mechanical problems with the instrument or auditory problems with one's hearing.

:icon_scratch: You just confused the hell out of me. Are you saying anyone using a D-tuna doesn't care about being in tune? Because you can't go to drop-D on a locked Floyd without it. You can turn the pegs all you want, as long as the nut is locked, ain't nothin' gonna happen.
 
Disco Scottie said:
Cagey said:
AutoBat said:
Anyone rocking a Floyd with a D-tuna surely isn't floating.
(EVH fans, represent)

That's probably true. But, it's also probably true that they aren't terribly concerned about being in tune, or aware of whether or not they're in tune. If you can't detune 1 string 1 step in a matter of seconds using the tuning pegs, then there are mechanical problems with the instrument or auditory problems with one's hearing.

:icon_scratch: You just confused the hell out of me. Are you saying anyone using a D-tuna doesn't care about being in tune? Because you can't go to drop-D on a locked Floyd without it. You can turn the pegs all you want, as long as the nut is locked, ain't nothin' gonna happen.
Yes you can, all mine are set up to tune down to D with the fine tuners.... :icon_thumright:
 
my first guitar had a Floyd, I owned one. thus why I hate them so... so much.

maybe one day, when I don't suck at guitar I will give the Tremolo another try. but... I refuse to buy guitars with any kind of floating bridge now. its hardtail or nothing.

Kinda why I decided to just suffer the discomfort of right handed guitars. every lefty I found was a softail strat.
 
Uhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmm, they all float...unless you block it up... :doh: :doh:
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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmm, no they don't. Mine doesn't. I'm talking about guitars that have the cut out behind the trem so you can pull back on it. I have a Music Man, you can't pull back on it. Hence, non-floating. And it's not tightened down so you have to muscle it down. As for the D-Tuna, I see nothing wrong with them. I've used one for years and never have tuning problems. I don't give a flying rats testicle how good your ear is, you're not going to tune down to D and then back up to E by tuning peg/ear than you will using a D-Tuna. It just won't happen. And I can flat out guarantee that the D-tuna is going to be closer to being in tune than you're going to do by ear.
MULLY
 
mullyman said:
Uhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmm, they all float...unless you block it up... :doh: :doh:

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmm, no they don't. Mine doesn't. I'm talking about guitars that have the cut out behind the trem so you can pull back on it. I have a Music Man, you can't pull back on it. Hence, non-floating. And it's not tightened down so you have to muscle it down. As for the D-Tuna, I see nothing wrong with them. I've used one for years and never have tuning problems. I don't give a flying rats testicle how good your ear is, you're not going to tune down to D and then back up to E by tuning peg/ear than you will using a D-Tuna. It just won't happen. And I can flat out guarantee that the D-tuna is going to be closer to being in tune than you're going to do by ear.
MULLY
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Unless the trem is resting against the body, then it's floating. I have several guitars with the non-recess floyd rout and mine float, cause they're not resting on the body. ...
 
I don't know why we're talking about Floyds here, but since we are, I love my Floyds (I have three) , and none of them float. It appears to me that most people who claim to hate Floyds don't know how they work, or how to set them up or adjust them. I am not a heavy user of the "whamy bar", I just like the feel, the sound, and the fine tuners that the Floyd features.
 
Street Avenger said:
people who SUCCEED IN HATING Floyds don't know how they work, or how to set them up or adjust them.

Exactly.

thats about nine tenths of why we hate them.
 
Street Avenger said:
I don't know why we're talking about Floyds here, but since we are, I love my Floyds (I have three) , and none of them float. It appears to me that most people who claim to hate Floyds don't know how they work, or how to set them up or adjust them. I am not a heavy user of the "whamy bar", I just like the feel, the sound, and the fine tuners that the Floyd features.

I used Floyd's for years. Right now I hate them because I really don't have the time to spend my afternoons re-stringin' the bitch. The benefits to me just aren't worth the time consumption of a set-up, You cant bend a string or vibrato without the other strings going out of tune, you can't snap a string and not notice.  :icon_jokercolor:  :toothy11:

I much prefer locking tuners, although they aren't quite as stable as a Floyd you can certainly still dive bomb and all the Van Halen stuff without worrying about tuning, so long as you keep an eye on it between songs your good. If I snap a string hey presto, no tuning instability. Restringing takes a fraction of the time, It would take me an hour and a half to restring a Floyd equipped guitar and even longer if there was any kind of set-up issue, I can have my Parker up and running with a fresh set of strings all stretched and good to go in less than 15 minutes.  :laughing7:

Not trying to bash you in anyway but i thought the whole point of the floyd was so you could go nuts with the whammy and not worry about it, it seems like wasted effort for something you don't really need?
 
But with a red 'Bucker at the neck.

Kisekookoo really needs red humbuckers.

I cant get the DIY to work on that.


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When I do my first Warmoth. I want it fast. and if I Got the Purple I want. I'd have to paint it myself. which would slow me down.

and I'm glad I'm not the only one who can't work that thing!

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Anyone want to loan me 1,200 dollars? I'll pay you back in Positive Vibes!

But seriously, I don't have a penny saved for this.

besides, Pups,Wiring,screws and a switch.

is this list missing anything?
 
Disco Scottie said:
:icon_scratch: You just confused the hell out of me. Are you saying anyone using a D-tuna doesn't care about being in tune? Because you can't go to drop-D on a locked Floyd without it. You can turn the pegs all you want, as long as the nut is locked, ain't nothin' gonna happen.

Oh, yeah. I forgot. Reason #27 to avoid the Floyd: no easy way to change tuning without a tool, or how to inadvertently break a string for no good reason.
 
Yeah, i'm sad to say that I no longer love the floyd. My warmoth is now locked off, and plans for the next build (which will not happen for a while) involve a bigsby, because I rarely use the floyd to it's fullest extent anymore, with that cool bigsby baseplate that will let me interchange between tom/stop or bigsby if I get annoyed with tuning instability!
 
DangerousR6 said:
Unless the trem is resting against the body, then it's floating. I have several guitars with the non-recess floyd rout and mine float, cause they're not resting on the body. ...

Mine is resting against the body.
MULLY
 
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