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LisaSimpson said:
Hi again! Everyone's advice has been so terrific! I can't believe there are so many knowledgeable people on the board. THANK YOU!! After going to GC today to try out different necks, I realized I liked the entire feel of the SG...so is the LP neck the way to go? What modifications are necessary, if any, to make the LP neck similar to the true Gibson SG Classic one? So much to decide...and I'm already considering a bass project lol!
Anyone else have input on the humbuckers vs. p90s debate? I know it's up to my ears, but some general information about the advantages of both would be great!
THANKS
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That would most likely be your best bet to get an LP neck, but if you like the slim SG neck you'd have to get one with the wizard contour. That's about as close as you're gonna get to the SG neck profile...

The Humbucker-P90 issue, as you say, is pretty much up to you. Personally I like the hum's, but at the same time I've played some older Gibson's with the old soap bars that I really liked.
 
If you like the feel of the SG Neck, go with a 1 11/16 nut, a conversion neck (24 3/4" scale), 6130 frets.
I like thicker necks. Going to be trying a '59 roundback on my next one.

And not a bad looking guitar!

If you want to go with the tele headstock, go ahead! It'll look unique, and not like just another SG copy.
 
Welcome to the board!

Many of my friends here have already given great advice about body, neck and headstock.

I'll chime in with my advice on pickups. One of my favorite SG players has a humbucker in the bridge, no middle pickup, and a p-90 in the neck.
I LOVE this combo. It gives both traditional SG tones in one guitar! That way you don't have to have a "humbucker guitar" OR a "p-90 guitar" you can have both on one!
 
Again, welcome.
1. The standard thin neck is probably just fine, I'm not sure you need to go as thin as wizard to get the feel of an SG. Standard thin is fast and pretty thin.
2. The "LP" versus "tele" is only about the shape of the headstock - you can get either shape with any of the neck sizes and shapes.
3. To copy an SG neck more or less, get a conversion scale LP heastock with 1 11/16 nut and the standard thin.
4. The thin body option is probably what you want as well.
5. P90s can have a great, fat, rich sound, but they hum, usually more than strat pickups do (because they are hotter). Just go listen to and play a lot of different pickups and get what you prefer the sound of. Plenty of great music has been made with all kinds of pickups.
6. You must come back and post pictures of your final product, we are all basically like zombies, but we crave pictures of custom guitars instead of fresh brains.  :guitaristgif:
 
I think the standard thin is already very thin... the wizard seems to me like absurdly thin... Some people think exactly the opposite...

For that real Gibson feel you should go with the '59 Roundback... I'm not sure if the neck of SG is thinner than LP, people here can help probably...

My thought on P90 is like this: you can some fat-rock tones thru it and better clean tones, more sparkly too... You can play any southern rock pretty well with them, they're very "all around"....

and in the end you can get a P90 in humbucker to have the best inbetween, it's made by:
Seymour Duncan: Phat Cat
Bare Knuckle Pickups: Mississippi Queen
Lollar makes a Single-coil in humbucker size, but it's more like a real P90 as the description they give


Doug: your mock up look not as hideous as my mental image :icon_thumright:
 
tfarny said:
Again, welcome.
1. The standard thin neck is probably just fine, I'm not sure you need to go as thin as wizard to get the feel of an SG. Standard thin is fast and pretty thin.
2. The "LP" versus "tele" is only about the shape of the headstock - you can get either shape with any of the neck sizes and shapes.
3. To copy an SG neck more or less, get a conversion scale LP heastock with 1 11/16 nut and the standard thin.
4. The thin body option is probably what you want as well.
5. P90s can have a great, fat, rich sound, but they hum, usually more than strat pickups do (because they are hotter). Just go listen to and play a lot of different pickups and get what you prefer the sound of. Plenty of great music has been made with all kinds of pickups.
6. You must come back and post pictures of your final product, we are all basically like zombies, but we crave pictures of custom guitars instead of fresh brains.  :guitaristgif:
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Generally I would agree Tim, but for the neck not in this case. The SG neck is the slimmest fastest neck Gibson has ever made, and it's quite a bit thinner than a standard thin. I have both, and the wizard is much closer to the SG than the standard thin. The standard thin feels more like a standard LP neck to me, almost the same feel as my Explorer.. :icon_biggrin:
 
LisaSimpson said:
Hi again! Everyone's advice has been so terrific! I can't believe there are so many knowledgeable people on the board. THANK YOU!! After going to GC today to try out different necks, I realized I liked the entire feel of the SG...so is the LP neck the way to go? What modifications are necessary, if any, to make the LP neck similar to the true Gibson SG Classic one? So much to decide...and I'm already considering a bass project lol!
Anyone else have input on the humbuckers vs. p90s debate? I know it's up to my ears, but some general information about the advantages of both would be great!
THANKS
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Now is the time to buy, as they have a sale on in the Showcase.  have  asearch round, and see if there's anything that takes your fancy.
Dont tell anyone here if you spot something though, as one of us is likely to jump in a steal it from under your nose  :icon_tongue:
 
I've had a Standard Thin, and it was returned for a warranty issue.  I opted for a '59 roundback to replace it.  It feels best in my hands.  But that's me.  I don't know if "Lisa Simpson" is just a moniker, or if "Lisa Simpson" is infact a woman.  I met a few women that were taller and had bigger hands than me, but that is the exception and not the rule.  What I'm getting at is that a comfortable neck contour for me may not be comfortable for you.  Especially if you're the stereotypical female with smaller hands.  A Standard Thin would be closest to the American Standard Fenders.  A '59 Roundback would be closest to the average LP.
 
I am all for experimental combination's, but the tele head on an SG looks really wrong..
now, a "Warmoth" headstock on an SG would look really cool! :)
 
Marko said:
I am all for experimental combination's, but the tele head on an SG looks really wrong..
now, a "Warmoth" headstock on an SG would look really cool! :)
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Kinda like tfarny's strat headstock on an LP.... :doh:
 
jimh said:
Dont tell anyone here if you spot something though, as one of us is likely to jump in a steal it from under your nose  :icon_tongue:
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DangerousR6 said:
Marko said:
I am all for experimental combination's, but the tele head on an SG looks really wrong..
now, a "Warmoth" headstock on an SG would look really cool! :)
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Kinda like tfarny's strat headstock on an LP.... :doh:
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That was just the winner of "The Most WRONG Guitar" Prize...
 
No doubt a Tele headstock on an SG looks quirky, but if the guitarist is quirky, it's a perfect fit.  I'm so used to seeing Angus play an SG and Slash play an LP, if they picked up a Tele, it wouldn't look right.  This Tele/SG combo may work, even though it doesn't work for me.
 
Marko said:
I am all for experimental combination's, but the tele head on an SG looks really wrong..
now, a "Warmoth" headstock on an SG would look really cool! :)
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I agree that the Wamoth headstock will look great. If I want a neck similar to the Gibson SG, should I modify the Warmoth or the LP option? I'm planning on staining the mahogany body and neck with a natural dark brown and installing either black or chrome hardware. Hopefully this will achieve a 60s decor vibe.
 
Hi everybody, I have a few more questions and some clarification:
1.) What sort of battery box do I need for an SG body?
2.) Is a contoured heel on an SG weird?
3.) What does everyone think of a p90 at the neck and a classic '57 at the bridge?
3.) My name is in fact Lisa, but not Lisa Simpson!
Thanks!
 
1.) What sort of battery box do I need for an SG body?
None... If you're using passive pickups you don't need them...

2.) Is a contoured heel on an SG weird?
No, but it is not really necessary on SG you can have a good reach... Guess that on Wamoth is the same, some guys here could say if is what I'm saying

3.) What does everyone think of a p90 at the neck and a classic '57 at the bridge?
Good... Not sure about the models, Mr =CB= has more experience on HxP90 and once said which pickups worked on this way and which doesn't, but it was like 2 years ago and I can't remember...

4.) My name is in fact Lisa, but not Lisa Simpson!
Great! So 2nd girl on forum, congratulations!
 
LisaSimpson said:
Marko said:
I am all for experimental combination's, but the tele head on an SG looks really wrong..
now, a "Warmoth" headstock on an SG would look really cool! :)
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I agree that the Wamoth headstock will look great. If I want a neck similar to the Gibson SG, should I modify the Warmoth or the LP option? I'm planning on staining the mahogany body and neck with a natural dark brown and installing either black or chrome hardware. Hopefully this will achieve a 60s decor vibe.
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I think you're confusing headstock shape with the back contour. Any headstock can be matched with any neck thickness. If you like the look of a tele headstock and want an SG feel order a tele headstock neck with a standard thin contour (although other members might know better than me.)

Also i wouldn't recommend staining the neck, i've heard it's rather difficult to get an even stain, then you'll have to seal it yourself as well to prevent warping.

I'd also recommend the 24 3/4ths conversion neck. If your hands are smaller the shorter scale length will help and the strings will feel lighter in gauge. Also it should feel more like the SG you played that way.
 
LisaSimpson said:
3.) What does everyone think of a p90 at the neck and a classic '57 at the bridge?
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Not at all strange.  Here's the Gibson BFG.

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