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LisaSimpson
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Hello again, thanks for all the advice! Can people clarify what they mean by tele necks being a strange choice for SG bodies. Also, what's the best resource for learning how to set up electronics? Am I going to be overwhelmed with the electronics? And pickups...where does everyone buy them? are used ones reliable? I feel so overwhelmed!
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Lisa Simpson
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Lisa Simpson
The Telecaster headstock shape does not traditionally pair with the SG body shape. They will work fine, though.LisaSimpson said:
Electronics are easy, if you know how to solder. If you do not, you can either get a local tech to do it for you, or you can learn from one of many sources.
Pickups can be ordered from the Warmoth site, direct from most manufacturers, or from another vendor.
You can also buy them on ebay or craigslist, but the used ones are only as reliable as the person selling them.
LisaSimpson said:
I happen to like Tele necks and SG bodies. What a great combo!~ Do that with the thinner 1-1/2 inch thick SG body Warmoth offers (more like the Gibson which is 1-5/8 thick at the end, tapered slightly toward the neck). Do it with a tele bridge, SG type controls, and a HB at the neck - or tele neck pickup. It would be the cats rosette. Red on mahogany SG body, and maple on maple tele neck... mmm...mmm...good.
The electronics... there are a lot of diagrams to choose from. Just pick one and follow it. You dont need to know how it works, just make it like the picture.
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Does this mean I need to use a tele bridge, or is this your personal opinion? I was planning on using the Gotoh ToM and hardtail for my hardware.
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Technically you could use whatever bridge you like. Just because you're using a tele neck doesn't limit you to using traditional tele parts...LisaSimpson said:
But the tele headstock design is an odd combo, but hey it's your build, do whatever you like I say.... :icon_thumright:
Wow...... That was Dangerous Doug's first post where he didn't specifically recommend a Floyd Rose to a newb.
Lisa. What you are experiencing here is the beauty of Warmoth, and the reason why we are all here. You can pretty much do whatever you like. The majority of Warmoth parts are totally compatible with each other. Only in a few cases are parts not recommended to go together.
This can also be the difficult thing about building a Warmoth, in that there are so many choices.
I'd suggest you have a look through the gallery on the Warmoth website, and also look at the galleries here. This will give you an idea of whats possible, and the choices that are available. I guess it all depends on wether you are trying to achieve as close as possible a faithful replica of a classic guitar, a modern take on a classic shape with up to date features, or a totally wacky combination of the two.
People here rave about raw/unfinished exotic woods. Maybe that is something you could consider?
Keep asking questions here, between us all, we've used most combinations of wood most body and headstock shapes, and most pickup choices. This is probably the best resources for an out and out beginner.
Lisa. What you are experiencing here is the beauty of Warmoth, and the reason why we are all here. You can pretty much do whatever you like. The majority of Warmoth parts are totally compatible with each other. Only in a few cases are parts not recommended to go together.
This can also be the difficult thing about building a Warmoth, in that there are so many choices.
I'd suggest you have a look through the gallery on the Warmoth website, and also look at the galleries here. This will give you an idea of whats possible, and the choices that are available. I guess it all depends on wether you are trying to achieve as close as possible a faithful replica of a classic guitar, a modern take on a classic shape with up to date features, or a totally wacky combination of the two.
People here rave about raw/unfinished exotic woods. Maybe that is something you could consider?
Keep asking questions here, between us all, we've used most combinations of wood most body and headstock shapes, and most pickup choices. This is probably the best resources for an out and out beginner.
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LisaSimpson said:
You are doing nothing wrong. You are building your SG not a Gibson SG. It may have the body of an SG but it doesn't mean it has to sound like a Gibson.
Choose the neck shape carefully. It's very important to feel good in your hand. If you have not decided for scale length, I suggest 25.5. For my taste it gives clarity to the sound, especially on cleans.
P90's are great pickups but they vary a lot on output and sound. I have experience only with Lollars. They sound sweet and they have a great clean sound http://www.lollarguitars.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=p90-pickups
For humbuckers I suggest pickups I have played and like, I always go for a sweet round sound:
http://www.wcrguitar.com/godwood.html
http://www.suhrguitars.com/pickups.aspx
http://www.lollarguitars.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=humbucker-pickups
If you go with humbuckers I suggest you go with 4-conductor wire. You can use potentiometers http://www.warmoth.com/Push-Push-Pot-500k-with-DPDT-Switch-On-On-P732C74.aspx for splitting and for out of phase sound. It's nice to have more sounds availiable.
LisaSimpson said:
You can use - the TOM bridge either with stop bar or string thru (string thru would be REALLY cool and add that bit of Tele touch). You can use a hardtail
Strat bridge, or a Tele bridge, or a Bigsby with a TOM. I happen to like - personal opinion - the concept of merging my two favorite guitars, the Tele and the SG. SG body and electronics, with Tele neck and hardware (aka bridge) - sounds like a match that would rival Sacco and Vanzetti, yaknowwhadImeanjellybean?
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Kostas said:
And 24.75" give punch and sweetness... But this is completely personal taste, I guess she should play in some guitar with both scale to decide which one gives her the most confort to play and tone desired...
About the SG body + Tele neck, personally I think it's fugly... But there is no law AT ALL that hinderers you of getting it... Just be sure that the Tele neck has a different pocket than the ones Warmoth makes on SG, LP, Strat bodies. You'll need to make a custom order and this will not be avaiable to return if you don't like it... no big problem as if you get a 22 fret neck it would cover the different neck pocket, if you decide someday to change for the Gibby headstock...
More information about:
http://www.warmoth.com/Guitar/Bodies/Options/GuitarNeckPocket.aspx
Perhaps Max could gently make a mock up of the SG/Tele
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Wouldn't she have to have the Tele neck heel or the SG body joint modified to fit properly since Tele necks have that more "square" heel?
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That, or get a Strat neck with Tele headstock. That would have a Strat heel.
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My top 3 suggestions to think about with the build are...
A neck made from a wood that doesn't have to be finished
Stainless Steel Frets
The Warmoth/Earvana nut
When I last spoke to Warmoth they said that they were working on the W/E nut for tilt back headstocks, but it is not ready yet. Harumph, more waiting for me. But on a Fender headstock neck, the W/E nut really does make a difference, and I find it sounds a lot nicer. I like the stainless steel frets more from a functional standpoint. A bit more work to deal with during setup because they are harder material, but the long term benefits are well worth it. And then the natural wood necks, these are just fun to play. It is very hard to describe. Look through the Warmoth page about how bright/dark the neck woods sound, and you can pick a wood that comes close to maple or mahogany or whatever. As has been said, someone here probably has a neck made out of any of the woods listed and they can tell you their thoughts on it. If you choose to go down that path. A very addicting path...
Good luck with the guitar. If you have new ideas and want feedback, we all have opinions/experience with this. I will say that it is usually easier to suggest ideas when you can provide a band/song that we can use for a reference point. Once again, good luck.
Patrick
A neck made from a wood that doesn't have to be finished
Stainless Steel Frets
The Warmoth/Earvana nut
When I last spoke to Warmoth they said that they were working on the W/E nut for tilt back headstocks, but it is not ready yet. Harumph, more waiting for me. But on a Fender headstock neck, the W/E nut really does make a difference, and I find it sounds a lot nicer. I like the stainless steel frets more from a functional standpoint. A bit more work to deal with during setup because they are harder material, but the long term benefits are well worth it. And then the natural wood necks, these are just fun to play. It is very hard to describe. Look through the Warmoth page about how bright/dark the neck woods sound, and you can pick a wood that comes close to maple or mahogany or whatever. As has been said, someone here probably has a neck made out of any of the woods listed and they can tell you their thoughts on it. If you choose to go down that path. A very addicting path...
Good luck with the guitar. If you have new ideas and want feedback, we all have opinions/experience with this. I will say that it is usually easier to suggest ideas when you can provide a band/song that we can use for a reference point. Once again, good luck.
Patrick
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One very important thing to consider, and not mentioned, is fretboard radius and bridge. If going with a compund radius, a Tune-O-Matic will require some modification as they are not sold for intended use with a 10" - 16" radius.
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This is true, tele necks only fit tele pockets. One or the other would have to be modified to fit properly. Probably easiest way to go would be to rout the neck pocket for a tele, but a strat headstock could also be trimmed to a tele style... :dontknow:AprioriMark said:
LisaSimpson
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Hi again! Everyone's advice has been so terrific! I can't believe there are so many knowledgeable people on the board. THANK YOU!! After going to GC today to try out different necks, I realized I liked the entire feel of the SG...so is the LP neck the way to go? What modifications are necessary, if any, to make the LP neck similar to the true Gibson SG Classic one? So much to decide...and I'm already considering a bass project lol!
Anyone else have input on the humbuckers vs. p90s debate? I know it's up to my ears, but some general information about the advantages of both would be great!
THANKS
Anyone else have input on the humbuckers vs. p90s debate? I know it's up to my ears, but some general information about the advantages of both would be great!
THANKS
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A nice mahogany SG with a Pau ferro tele neck.... :icon_biggrin:
