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Custom Custom Vs. Super 2

Kain VKail

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So can anyone tell me a little about what these sound like. maybe a comparison wasnt such a good idea for a topic but then maybe it was. i dont know what they sound like i may have just picked the 2 best choices for Pickup rivalry in the world. and then again i may be an idiot. but if someone would like to help me out in some way. thanks

just tell me whatever you know about each PUP and if they are comparible go for it. they both just sound interesting to me.
 
Really.... no one knows ANYTHING about these 2 pickups. like i know that the Super 2 isnt ultra popular but i mean somebody has to know something about them.
 
My guess is a Custom Custom is a custom pickup that's been modified from a modified standard pickup, and a Super 2 is the successor to the Super 1, or perhaps just "The Super". The difference is probably that one's unique unto this world, and the other is, like, way better than anything. I don't know how they compare, tonally. Maybe one sounds wet and purplish, and they other sounds extra fluffy with a hint of sage?

C'mon! Give us a clue! Who made them? Allen-Bradley? Craftsman? Subaru? Phillips Lighting and Coil Emporium? Pickups-R-Us? At least if we knew that, we could get less than 247 billion hits on Google.
 
lol well i know who the spunky one on the forum is hahaha. every post you make is just full of spirit and sarcasm.

ANYWAYS, ive realized that yes you are right. i just assumed that the majority of the people who are searching around on the pickup area of a forum are familiar with popular pickup companies such as Seymour Duncan (custom custom) and DiMarzio (super 2 [predecessor of the Super Distortion ALSO by DiMarzio]). But the guitar im trying to Put these in is a White Kramer Pacer Classic:
Lic. Floyd Rose
2 Humbuckers
Volume bleed mod
2 vol. 1 tone
3-way selection switch
Black hardware
Mahogany body
Maple neck and fingerboard
22 frets
25.5" scale

i planned on Putting the Custom Custom as F-spaced in the Bridge and the Super 2 in the neck and i wanted to know if it was a good idea. im REALLY trying to get an 80's type of sound out of these PUPs and i understasnd there are a lot of Underlying factors that come with choosing pups but i mean some times people can give you a general synopsis of how a PUP will sound through any amp.
 
some people told me to go with the fred in the bridge. but that other forum im apart of is a bunch of DiMarzio Fan boys so i cant really ask pickup opinions there. so i ask them here lol.

but im not really looking for that smooth neck PUP sound. i like my neck Pups to sound like a bridge Pup. and yah i understand thats hard to do because its in the neck position. but i just really dont like neck pup sounds, and id still like to retain that 80's type of feel with it. so if someone has a good idea they can pitch to me thatd be great.

i find that getting a bridge PUP and putting it in the neck position but lowering it down a bunch seems to bear those results. i did that with a duncan Invader, but the super 2 is apparently MADE for the neck position so if i dont like it then maybe someone can give me a better PUP soi can obtain the 80's bridge tone out of the neck position. lol ive only met one other person who hates smooth sounding neck pups like me. so im probably not gonna get any answers in that repect.

Street Avenger said:
I'd rather go with a Screamin' Demon at the bridge and a Air Norton at the neck.
i like the screamin demon idea maybe i could throw that in the neck. and just give it a drop
 
Kain VKail said:
i find that getting a bridge PUP and putting it in the neck position but lowering it down a bunch seems to bear those results.


I'm sorry, but this is NOT going to make your neck position sound like the bridge position. Most bridge pickups are essentially the same as your neck models except with slightly more bass and more output. What happens when you put that in the neck position, which naturally has more bass and more volume than the bridge position because of physics, is a neck pickup that's just going to be exaggeratedly louder and fatter than your bridge position pickup. If anything, you should be going for a neck pickup that has little bass and and lots of upper mids.

can't say i have any personal experience with a pickup that fits that description. from DiMarzio's site descriptions, I think the PAF Joe or PAF Pro might be the kind of thing your looking for. Particularly because the PAF Pro is the product of the 80's metal scene as far as I recall.
 
dNA said:
Kain VKail said:
i find that getting a bridge PUP and putting it in the neck position but lowering it down a bunch seems to bear those results.


I'm sorry, but this is NOT going to make your neck position sound like the bridge position. Most bridge pickups are essentially the same as your neck models except with slightly more bass and more output. What happens when you put that in the neck position, which naturally has more bass and more volume than the bridge position because of physics, is a neck pickup that's just going to be exaggeratedly louder and fatter than your bridge position pickup. If anything, you should be going for a neck pickup that has little bass and and lots of upper mids.

can't say i have any personal experience with a pickup that fits that description. from DiMarzio's site descriptions, I think the PAF Joe or PAF Pro might be the kind of thing your looking for. Particularly because the PAF Pro is the product of the 80's metal scene as far as I recall.

thanks that really helps me out a lot. it seems that from what you say the Super 2 is EXACTLY what im looking for. its got lowered bass and a huge boost in the treble and mids.  i guess i picked the best combo that i possible could have hahaha. i mean obviously i still have to try them before i can really make any sort of finalized judgement.  but if anyone has any other ideas as to a way i can produce what im looking for  please feel free to interject.
 
Ken at Roadhouse Pickups made me a set of high output humbuckers I really like.  The neck sounds about like what you are describing.  Ken is Troubled Treble here on this board, and you can always go and visit his site at Roadhouse Pickups.  The bridge sound of my set is similar to a BKP Nailbomb.  It is a very nice set of pickups, and he can always customize them for you if you talk with him about it.  Several other users here on the board have his pickups, so they might chime in with comments.
Patrick

 
Patrick from Davis said:
Ken at Roadhouse Pickups made me a set of high output humbuckers I really like.  The neck sounds about like what you are describing.  Ken is Troubled Treble here on this board, and you can always go and visit his site at Roadhouse Pickups.  The bridge sound of my set is similar to a BKP Nailbomb.  It is a very nice set of pickups, and he can always customize them for you if you talk with him about it.  Several other users here on the board have his pickups, so they might chime in with comments.
Patrick

That's not a bad idea either, i think i might have to take you up on that. yah its just always really hard for me to find that certain sound i like. i mean every guitar i own has a different set of PUPs in it so ive really tried to get a hold of what im after. so maybe if i talk to ken hecan really get what im looking for.
 
Kain VKail said:
lol well i know who the spunky one on the forum is hahaha. every post you make is just full of spirit and sarcasm.

ANYWAYS, ive realized that yes you are right. i just assumed that the majority of the people who are searching around on the pickup area of a forum are familiar with popular pickup companies such as Seymour Duncan (custom custom) and DiMarzio (super 2 [predecessor of the Super Distortion ALSO by DiMarzio]). But the guitar im trying to Put these in is a White Kramer Pacer Classic:
Lic. Floyd Rose
2 Humbuckers
Volume bleed mod
2 vol. 1 tone
3-way selection switch
Black hardware
Mahogany body
Maple neck and fingerboard
22 frets
25.5" scale

i planned on Putting the Custom Custom as F-spaced in the Bridge and the Super 2 in the neck and i wanted to know if it was a good idea. im REALLY trying to get an 80's type of sound out of these PUPs and i understasnd there are a lot of Underlying factors that come with choosing pups but i mean some times people can give you a general synopsis of how a PUP will sound through any amp.

***** cough ***** EMG 81/85 ***** cough *****
 
Death by Uberschall said:
Kain VKail said:
lol well i know who the spunky one on the forum is hahaha. every post you make is just full of spirit and sarcasm.

ANYWAYS, ive realized that yes you are right. i just assumed that the majority of the people who are searching around on the pickup area of a forum are familiar with popular pickup companies such as Seymour Duncan (custom custom) and DiMarzio (super 2 [predecessor of the Super Distortion ALSO by DiMarzio]). But the guitar im trying to Put these in is a White Kramer Pacer Classic:
Lic. Floyd Rose
2 Humbuckers
Volume bleed mod
2 vol. 1 tone
3-way selection switch
Black hardware
Mahogany body
Maple neck and fingerboard
22 frets
25.5" scale

i planned on Putting the Custom Custom as F-spaced in the Bridge and the Super 2 in the neck and i wanted to know if it was a good idea. im REALLY trying to get an 80's type of sound out of these PUPs and i understasnd there are a lot of Underlying factors that come with choosing pups but i mean some times people can give you a general synopsis of how a PUP will sound through any amp.

***** cough ***** EMG 81/85 ***** cough *****

Sorry im not an active PUP kind of person. AND if i was i would get a set of blackouts. but im not so i wont. im much more satisfied with the type of dynamics you get with passives
 
Kain VKail said:
That's not a bad idea either, i think i might have to take you up on that. yah its just always really hard for me to find that certain sound i like. i mean every guitar i own has a different set of PUPs in it so ive really tried to get a hold of what im after. so maybe if i talk to ken hecan really get what im looking for.

FWIW, I was exactly the same way for years. I swear, up until two months ago I was never really pleased with the tones I was getting from my various electrics. Some of them did some things well or sounded good for limited things. But i got a set of pickups from Ken and it just brought my guitar to life. I thought I was DiMarzio fanboy for life before that.

Having someone who actually wants to listen to what I have to say and then tweaks the pickups to fit my needs is something I wanted for years. Didn't think I'd find it. I just think it makes more sense than trying to find prefabricated parts that will fit your needs. You're here in the Warmoth forum. Probably a reason for it...
 
I always find it easier to refer to a song that has the sound I am going for in it.  "The sound between minute 1 and 2 nails it!"  It gives a much better point of reference, and can be referred to to refresh the memory.  Failing that, ask and answer questions as much as you can, because it will get the idea across better.

I often recommend Ken's pickups, like DbU often recommends EMG 81/85's...  Perhaps we should just add that as the .sig to our posts.  Save time.  But, Ken's pickups are very musical and have a lot of depth to them.  It is part of the process he developed, and it sounds real good.  His prices are very reasonable as well.  I can't give enough good remarks about them, and his service.  And since you seem to be in the position of looking for something custom anyways, it is a reasonable course of action to recommend.
Patrick

 
So for this ken guy how specific am i allowed to get hahaha because i think i could come up with a very detailed idea of what im really looking for. but only if that makes it easier.

but i think what im going to do is since ive been trying to get rid of another pickup that i have, ill just buy the 2 that are in question at the moment and then replace the other pickup with the roadhouse custom pickup from ken. since it too is in the neck slot. wow i got so much more from this then id hoped for hahaha. so what all has ken made for you guys. i mean ill talk to him tomorrow to see what he says but it seem as though im going to really go for it.
 
Well I got a set of his new hum-sized P90's in one of m main guitars and I'm waiting on delivery of a set of humbuckers for my other main axe. I've also demo'd a strat w/ his humbuckers, a strat with his 390's (strat-sized P90 style pup), and a few guitars with a few different strat pickups. Everything sounded great to me.
 
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