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I'm looking forward to the refinish, especially after seeing that back. Stripping finishes is always a pain, but I'm interested to see how you go about it!
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POly huh....that should be fun, hope the body isnt too much thinner by the time you get through all those under coats, kinda like Ibanez's -S series, super thin and sleek....yikes should be a dream though with the right neck. Thanks for posting, this will be very interesting....lol Now your committed.....
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There are a couple unusual things about the construction. First, it's a solid curly/quilt Maple cap, 3/4" thick - no veneer or binding - over Mahogany. Second, neither the top nor body proper are bookmatched, and the back has a goofy grain to it that just begs to be hidden. Not what I'd expect from Warmoth. I don't know how old it is, but it's gotta be the mid to late '90s, right? Seems like I read somewhere that's when they stopped making that style. Anyway, maybe they weren't as careful or picky back then.
So, it's a good candidate for a transparent burst top with masked binding and an opaque back. I'm gonna do a blue/black thing, sorta like this...
...but bursting to black at the edges, and tint the masked binding the same as the center of the top rather than leave it natural.
I need to find details on how the masking for the binding gets done - I've never done it before. Seems like Tonar did a post on it a couple years ago, but I'm having trouble finding it now.
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I agree. I would like the original cut with the thicker slab of the new design. If Warmoth ever *** cough cough, makes a mistake, cough cough *** and produces that, I'd be all over it!!!
I like grain like that. Considering that nobody ever wanted or had even heard of a 10-top or masked binding or any of these other things that we have been pimped into thinking make some sort of quality scale, until somewhere in... the late 90's or something? Boof. Paul Reed Smith has done a masterful number on the brains of an epic cast of thousands upon thousands of gullible "consumerist" money-leakers, I mean congrats Paul! :hello2: Go get 'em. Maybe we can elect HIM President and he go put masked binding on some Arabs or something.
I like thin guitars too (more), it's one way to get a really different, umm, eek, spectrum of sound at the primary source? I've heard Bill Lawrence talk about the center frequency, but it's more like... the wood is defining the sample of the string's output that the pickup gets to reproduce? :icon_scratch: :icon_scratch: :icon_scratch: My brain knows what I mean, my vocabulary's on drugs. Unless you blow it (you won't), it will sound warmer, airier, more human-y than a thicker plank. Stick on some PAFs from any of a couple of dozen places and a knob or two, and off you go. rock 'n' roll. On a thinnie, the neck angle/pocket biz may require thought and/or elegant solution.
I like thin guitars too (more), it's one way to get a really different, umm, eek, spectrum of sound at the primary source? I've heard Bill Lawrence talk about the center frequency, but it's more like... the wood is defining the sample of the string's output that the pickup gets to reproduce? :icon_scratch: :icon_scratch: :icon_scratch: My brain knows what I mean, my vocabulary's on drugs. Unless you blow it (you won't), it will sound warmer, airier, more human-y than a thicker plank. Stick on some PAFs from any of a couple of dozen places and a knob or two, and off you go. rock 'n' roll. On a thinnie, the neck angle/pocket biz may require thought and/or elegant solution.
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They pop up from time to time on fee-bay...Death by Uberschall said:
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They're always ridiculously expensive, though. I've seen 3 different bodies show up in the last couple years, ranging in price from $1,200 to $1,500. Of course, they didn't sell, so that's not what they're worth. Still, it's nice to know some people think they're highly desirable. Personally, I just think it's a good design. I think PRS was foolish to prevent their manufacture. Increasing that design's popularity could only increase sales for them. But, IP owners are often foolish that way.
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True dat... :icon_thumright:Cagey said:
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So, one of my brothers was over yesterday to celebrate his incredibly expensive rebuilt transmission by drinking my beer, and I got him to take me out in search of some proper paint remover. I didn't want any of that crap made out of soybeans and rainbows, I wanted something that could kill me if I wasn't careful with it. You know - the stuff that actually works. Turns out you can still buy methylene chloride without a pass from Homeland Security, so that's what I got. Supposedly, this stuff will eat polyurethane in 15 minutes flat. It certainly stinks and can put you in the hospital real quick, so I feel good about it. We'll see what happens.
Ask tonar. He posted about one (that he sells?) that will strip finish like an A-Bomb but you can water your daffodils, or something. If I remember right (I am NOT going digging) the bugaboo was it came in gallons and they were $50, but you seem to be trending into doing this stuff anyway.
Might as well add "stripper" to the resume... :cool01:
Might as well add "stripper" to the resume... :cool01:
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I did find the post where he recommended this stuff from a marine supply house, and you're right - it only goes by the gallon and it's expensive. I don't want that much of the stuff. I've stripped enough guitars and other things to know I don't ever want to do it again if I can avoid it. The only reason I'm doing this one is because it's an unusual body I'm determined to use so I don't really have much choice. It's either do it myself or pay someone else to do it, and I'm a DIY kind of guy.
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I love it Cagey a real Man's Man, out here on the west coast (at least in Seattle) things can get a bit "what they call metro sexual" so to hear it straight and want the real deal Chemical and F#rk the Universe stuff that works is my kinda thinkin..... :icon_thumright:
People do have some success with a heat gun, sometime alternating with the daffodil-variety strippers, and if you were going to Van Halen it with bicycle paint it'd work - but, of course, that means you have to do a finish where you have to get every last little bit of everything out of the pores to make it work, or it won't have the depth, right? Don't it always seem as though your own brain is trying to pick on you....
