Bridge of Dooooooom....

Cagey said:
Holy crap! You gotta remove the trem cover, too? So, now you've got to carry a set of metric allen wrenches and screwdrivers? At what point would you say this thing becomes a problem child? Does it have to have abrasive parts that chew the skin off your palm heel? Does it need to pinch you every 3rd note? What if it was tied to the house mains and shocked the snot out of you every time you touched it? How much abuse do you need to tolerate before you start to wonder if it's all worth it? It's a bloody bridge, fer crissakes!

When you're up on stage in front of X number of people and a string breaks, you can't tell them you'll be back in a week or two with a new string. You've got to change it RFN. No fiddle-faddle, just do it, and I mean immediately. Otherwise, you're done. It's the only thing anybody will remember, and few things are as damaging to your career or reputation as needing to show off when you've got nothing. May as well be standing there naked with a drippy 2" peter <grin>

Thankfully, on the the other hand, I'm not the first one who's considered this. Mr. Wilkinson managed to achieve the goal of a simple vibrato bridge that uses less than a thousand parts, maintains its form, is repeatable, and doesn't require a degree in mechanical engineering to change strings. Schaller has some nice designs, too, but they're difficult to get in the US. See this part...

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Super-flat, roller saddles to reduce string abrasion, adjustable in two dimensions, intonation locks, and nothing to it. What could possibly be wrong with that? Want more range, like a Floyd has? Route the body more to clear the sustain block. That's all the Floyd requires. It's a no-brainer.

Incidentally, I have owned or worked with Floyds and similar; I'm not talking out of my ass. I've been playing with this stuff for almost 3 times as long as you've been alive.
I like that... :icon_thumright:
 
Alright cagey, use your trems and I will use mine, we like what we like for our own reasons.  If anything the LoPro diagram is the definition of trying to assemble the bridge
of doom, there are a whole lot of parts involved.  Its the title of the thread, btw.

As for the edge pro, its not as complicated as im making it sound, although some more steps are required to change strings, the trem unit itself is pretty kick-ass (oops can i say that here?)
Also, when a string breaks on stage i have a backup guitar.  Yeah i know, your gonna say "Oh now it requires a backup guitar?!?!?"  thats all part of guitars and performaces.
 
DangerousR6 said:
I like that... :icon_thumright:

Isn't that a nice part? I think it's new. The only retailer I can find is Thomann's in the UK. I sent them an email to ask what I'd have to do to get one shipped here, or if it's even possible. Lotta stuff you can get in Europe you can't get here because of our ridiculous patent system and/or abusive tariffs. Of course, the reverse is true in spades, so it's not like we've been singled out for punishment. The rent-seekers own the world and what parts they don't, the gummints have a grip on.
 
downhomerock said:
If anything the LoPro diagram is the definition of trying to assemble the bridge of doom, there are a whole lot of parts involved.  Its the title of the thread, btw.

Yeah, I not only noted that, I inspired the thread.

The object of the exercise was to design a simple bridge that just worked without using a million tone-sucking parts or requiring 25 acres of machine tools under one roof. Mr. R6 had recently acquired a machine tool that would allow him to fabricate something that guitarists designed, rather than opportunists. Users generally know more about what's important than some corporation or erstwhile inventor.

But, there are already a lot of very good units out there, so it started to look like an exercise in futility or a make-work project. So, the thread died until you popped it back up.
 
pabloman said:
Wait til Cagey has to change batteries just to play his guitar. :icon_jokercolor:

Oh, you know I'm gonna bitch. I'm already plotting and planning.

Although, I had a Levinson Blade some time back that had some active electronics onboard, and it was pretty forgiving. Battery lasted a long time in that thing. As long as it'll go for a reasonable length of time, I'm not going to be too upset.

The thing I'm not happy about now is the lifespan of the transmitters on Line 6's "Relay" series wireless systems. Line 6 says you can get 8 hours out of a set of batteries, which probably means 5. I really want one of those things, but I don't own any stock in Duracell.
 
well to keep the simple bridge idea, i have a few of my own, once i figure out how to create them in a computer i  will be sure to share with everyone.

and about the batteries... lol :) active pups and I generally disagree so i will leave it at that.
 
Also, dangerous, which solidworks product are you using? Id like to be able to create a graphic representation of what bridge of doom looks like in my head.
 
downhomerock said:
Also, dangerous, which solidworks product are you using? Id like to be able to create a graphic representation of what bridge of doom looks like in my head.
I have Solid Works 2011..
 
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