Vintage flat mount drilled showcase bodies!

[Laptopkoen]

hi! .. well here's the deal: I've noticed that every single vintage flat mount body in the showcase has a little sorta chip on it above the string-through holes ..

example:

now .. is this on purpose? does it serve a purpose? I've been thinking about getting a hardtail strat, but never having owned one, I have no idea if this is intentional .. I sure hope it is though - as I said I have not yet seen a hardtail body without this chip in it

Additionally, I've noticed that this chip is not in the same place on all bodies (even though they ARE reversed on lefties).. logically they should be in the same spot (if intentional) - but if you compare this koa body to the first picture, you'll see what I mean:

Something wrong with warmoths machinery or?

Thanks in advance, Laptopkoen

 

[Orpheo]

its a hole for the bridge earth wire to pass through, to go to the control cavity!

 

[Laptopkoen]

but ..  :tard:

I thought you'd just ground the electronics under the copper shielding !

 

[Orpheo]

but ..  :tard:

I thought you'd just ground the electronics under the copper shielding !

no.... its what you say: shielding. you shield the cavity from outside (electronical!) noise!

You NEED a wire from the bridge to the control cavity, otherwise you'll have a constant buzz in your tone. play, just for fun, a lick on your guitar, clean, open strings, do NOT touch the strings or any thing metal, just pick it with your pick, and then touch the metal parts. You'll notice that the buzz goes away. thats because YOU earth it with your body. nothing to be scared off, it just has to happen, and it has happend for over 60 years.

 

[dmraco]

yep...bridge ground...

 

[tfarny]

Hardtail strats are the best of both worlds, get one, ground the bridge using the perfectly drilled hole (as with every guitar and bass on the planet) and get hooked.  arty07: arty07: arty07:

 

[bbl4ck]

Hardtail strats are the best of both worlds, get one, ground the bridge using the perfectly drilled hole (as with every guitar and bass on the planet) and get hooked.  arty07: arty07: arty07:

Amen brotha'  :headbang: :headbang1: :headbang:

 

[Funky Phil]

but ..  :tard:

I thought you'd just ground the electronics under the copper shielding !

no.... its what you say: shielding. you shield the cavity from outside (electronical!) noise!

You NEED a wire from the bridge to the control cavity, otherwise you'll have a constant buzz in your tone. play, just for fun, a lick on your guitar, clean, open strings, do NOT touch the strings or any thing metal, just pick it with your pick, and then touch the metal parts. You'll notice that the buzz goes away. thats because YOU earth it with your body. nothing to be scared off, it just has to happen, and it has happend for over 60 years.

I don't know if you've ever considered this, but it's you that are being earthed by the guitar, not the other way round.. :doh:

 

[disaster]

I don't know if you've ever considered this, but it's you that are being earthed by the guitar, not the other way round.. :doh:

Quite correct.  The guitar is connected to ground (earth) through the building wiring.  The strings connect to the guitar ground when you tie the bridge to the guitar ground.  So when you touch the stings you are now directly connected to earth.  For better or worse.  This ground path provides a potential for electrocution, just so you know.  This is the way Strats & Teles have been made since good ol' Leo invented them.

 

[Laptopkoen]

So if I were to mount humbuckers on it .. I wouldn't have to ground it at all? I'm confused.. but my tune-o les paul is not grounded that way

 

[Kublai]

One of the studs on the TOM is most likely grounded.

 

[tfarny]

ALL guitars have a wire to connect the bridge to ground, it doesn't matter what pickups you are using. A TOM setup runs a wire from the stud hole into the body cavity, it's invisible on the top but it's there. Open up your control cavity and you'll see it coming through. If you don't have it, your guitar is a lot noisier than it needs to be.

 

[Death by Uberschall]

ALL guitars have a wire to connect the bridge to ground, it doesn't matter what pickups you are using. A TOM setup runs a wire from the stud hole into the body cavity, it's invisible on the top but it's there. Open up your control cavity and you'll see it coming through. If you don't have it, your guitar is a lot noisier than it needs to be.

EMGs don't get grounded.  :icon_thumright:

 

[MUYFUE]

ALL guitars have a wire to connect the bridge to ground, it doesn't matter what pickups you are using. A TOM setup runs a wire from the stud hole into the body cavity, it's invisible on the top but it's there. Open up your control cavity and you'll see it coming through. If you don't have it, your guitar is a lot noisier than it needs to be.

Did you just call me a "STUD HOLE?" hahaha.  :icon_jokercolor:

OP, if you dont hear a constant horrible buzzing, your guitar is probably grounded right. Passive Humbuckers still need to be grounded.

 

[Laptopkoen]

but ..  :tard:

I thought you'd just ground the electronics under the copper shielding !

no.... its what you say: shielding. you shield the cavity from outside (electronical!) noise!

You NEED a wire from the bridge to the control cavity, otherwise you'll have a constant buzz in your tone. play, just for fun, a lick on your guitar, clean, open strings, do NOT touch the strings or any thing metal, just pick it with your pick, and then touch the metal parts. You'll notice that the buzz goes away. thats because YOU earth it with your body. nothing to be scared off, it just has to happen, and it has happend for over 60 years.

I don't get it .. my LP doesnt do this...

 

[rockskate4x]

but ..  :tard:

I thought you'd just ground the electronics under the copper shielding !

no.... its what you say: shielding. you shield the cavity from outside (electronical!) noise!

You NEED a wire from the bridge to the control cavity, otherwise you'll have a constant buzz in your tone. play, just for fun, a lick on your guitar, clean, open strings, do NOT touch the strings or any thing metal, just pick it with your pick, and then touch the metal parts. You'll notice that the buzz goes away. thats because YOU earth it with your body. nothing to be scared off, it just has to happen, and it has happend for over 60 years.

I don't get it .. my LP doesnt do this...

Then you, my friend are very lucky...

 

[elgravos]

I actually read somewhere that at some stage Gibson decided that their covered pickups were shielded enough and that no string ground was necessary.  Not sure they did this for long or still do it as it sounds a little misguided.  I could open up my LP and take a peak but it's beer o'clock and I still have my priorities right.

In any case, string grounding is essential in an electric guitar (with allowances made for EMGs).  As stated, you would run a wire from a TOM mounting stud into the control cavity.

 

[Return of Guitlouie]

Shielding and grounding are not the same.  Passive pickups, there is a ground at the bridge.  Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not there.  I would bet all my donuts that your LP has a bridge ground.