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Day-mun said:
SaintFu said:
I'm pretty sure Fender isn't thinking about Warmoth with this. They're thinking about this guy: http://stores.ebay.com/The-STRATosphere.
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That is totally what I thought, too! I've known of guys building guitars out of All-Parts/Mighty-Mite/etc. and topping it off with a "genuine" Startosphere neck -and selling it for a profit. -Disgusting.

If I were Fender, I'd be more interested in givin' that flea-bay store a run for their money.
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I am not sure how the roll on stuff like this over at Fender, But HJ and Gibson's legal team would have shut this guy down a long time ago.
That and the fact that Warmoth is Licensed, for Fender Patents, I don't see them giving them a hard time. 
 
The licensing works good for Fender, too. W, afterall, is regarded by the industry as a maker of replacement parts. -Most consumers (and I am referring to gear-head/mod-freaks) will go with the product with the most after-market options available. Whether it be a Jeep CJ-5, a Ruger 10/22, or a Fender Stratocaster, they are all the "Barbie-Dolls" of their respective markets. -You can get a stock one and replace any and everything with custom this-or-that's from whatever manufacturer out of seven or eight. -And that is why the consumer picked that vehicle/gun/guitar in the first place; the after-market parts are plentiful and affordable. -They can be dressed up however the end-consumer wishes; and that is a powerful selling point. Fender would be nuts to start picking off the manufacturers of Fender-style retro-fit parts!
 
i guess i haven't been reading fender forums, but my impression of warmoth is that it's a totally different customer base - the person who is looking for something you can't get at a music store and would otherwise cost much more from a fancy boutique builder. the fender replacement stuff is for fender people who broke a neck on a five year old guitar. in the past, did that latter category flock to warmoth to buy necks or bodies? if you're a fender brand nut, wouldn't buying warmoth parts and bolting them on been a big sacrifice anyway? personally, i love some of fender's body shapes but the brand means relatively little to me.
 
jordan_ytth said:
i guess i haven't been reading fender forums, but my impression of warmoth is that it's a totally different customer base - the person who is looking for something you can't get at a music store and would otherwise cost much more from a fancy boutique builder. the fender replacement stuff is for fender people who broke a neck on a five year old guitar. in the past, did that latter category flock to warmoth to buy necks or bodies? if you're a fender brand nut, wouldn't buying warmoth parts and bolting them on been a big sacrifice anyway? personally, i love some of fender's body shapes but the brand means relatively little to me.
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While the overwhelming majority of us here might be looking for something either fancy or specific, if you look in the Showcase you'll see a whole bunch of largely identical maple/maple and maple/RW strat and tele necks so I have to think that that is a significant part of W's business.

Like a lot of people here, the Fender stuff is mostly uninteresting to me as it's lacking in the very specific options I generally want.

But there are lots of people out there who don't know or care too much about all those options and just want a body with a maple neck that says "Fender" on it.
 
drewfx said:
Like a lot of people here, the Fender stuff is mostly uninteresting to me as it's lacking in the very specific options I generally want.

But there are lots of people out there who don't know or care too much about all those options and just want a body with a maple neck that says "Fender" on it.
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-Exactly. -And that may be the lion's share of the market... But there are enough of us who care about wood/finish/shape/contour options more than that spaghetti logo.

-I say "Thanks, Fender! Ya started something great, and provided a great spring-board; my hat's off to you..." -and the screen goes dark with Skid Row's "I remember you" playing to fade. :icon_jokercolor:
 
Somebody knows what the 404 error in the link is about? Can't see the stuff you're talking about there
 
If you're talkin' about the link to the Fender parts pics and pricing, I was able to go right to it.
 
drewfx said:
While the overwhelming majority of us here might be looking for something either fancy or specific, if you look in the Showcase you'll see a whole bunch of largely identical maple/maple and maple/RW strat and tele necks so I have to think that that is a significant part of W's business.

Like a lot of people here, the Fender stuff is mostly uninteresting to me as it's lacking in the very specific options I generally want.

But there are lots of people out there who don't know or care too much about all those options and just want a body with a maple neck that says "Fender" on it.
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I think that's spot-on. For as renegade as electric guitar players are thought to be, I think for the most part they're incredibly conservative about their instruments. If it's not damnably close to the status quo, it's wrong. I mean, to the point where they'll pay big bucks for clearly deficient and poorly designed gear. No amount of explanation, logic or proof will change their mind. "[insert guitar hero here] used a crummy bridge/tuners/pickups/etc., so by god that's what I'm gonna use."
 
Cagey said:
drewfx said:
While the overwhelming majority of us here might be looking for something either fancy or specific, if you look in the Showcase you'll see a whole bunch of largely identical maple/maple and maple/RW strat and tele necks so I have to think that that is a significant part of W's business.

Like a lot of people here, the Fender stuff is mostly uninteresting to me as it's lacking in the very specific options I generally want.

But there are lots of people out there who don't know or care too much about all those options and just want a body with a maple neck that says "Fender" on it.
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I think that's spot-on. For as renegade as electric guitar players are thought to be, I think for the most part they're incredibly conservative about their instruments. If it's not damnably close to the status quo, it's wrong. I mean, to the point where they'll pay big bucks for clearly deficient and poorly designed gear. No amount of explanation, logic or proof will change their mind. "[insert guitar hero here] used a crummy bridge/tuners/pickups/etc., so by god that's what I'm gonna use."
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Stock Is For Suckers....
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#*%$! KG, -You got me. Sort of. SRV, Clapton, Hendrix, etc. had me in a Strat death-spiral for a while there! :doh:

But at least now I don't have to have the logo on the headstock... and I've even been contemplating something other than kluson tuners. -Maybe even a Wilkinson bridge! Active pick-up? -Gasp!! Gotta take it easy... -Baby steps, baby steps. :icon_jokercolor:
 
I think it is funny that even Fender will not 100% guarantee that these necks will work with all of their bodies. "

Will replacement Fender necks fit vintage-style guitars?

In most cases, yes—replacement Fender necks will fit vintage-style guitars. The neck pocket width, however, may need to be adjusted in some cases.

In general, keep in mind that modern necks and bodies are designed for modern instruments, and vintage-style necks and bodies are designed for their vintage-style counterparts.

In either case, we recommend that Fender neck and body installation be performed by a Fender Authorized Service Center. Further, please note that modifying a Fender replacement neck or body voids its warranty.

I think those that say a Mexi replacement neck is only 199.00 are really missing the point a lot of the necks we sell go on Mexi's because the neck that is on it does not work for them for whatever reason. Why would you spend $199.00 to put the exact same neck back on your instrument. I compare it to stereo systems for cars if the stock sound system in my car sucks why would I go buy the exact same system to replace it with.  :icon_scratch:
 
I've heard it said before, and it applies here, too: "The problem with comparing guitars to those things is that they are not those things."

Brand/logo snobs aren't gonna care if the neck sucks... so long as its got a "F" logo on it.
 
Altar said:
This could spell bad news for warmoth...

http://www.fender.com/necks-bodies?utm_campaign=Fender+Guitars&utm_content=sf14414612&utm_medium=spredfast&utm_source=facebook&sf14414612=1&page=2

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For as long as I've known about Warmoth, Fender has sold replacement necks and bodies.
 
Super Turbo Deluxe Custom said:
Altar said:
This could spell bad news for warmoth...

http://www.fender.com/necks-bodies?utm_campaign=Fender+Guitars&utm_content=sf14414612&utm_medium=spredfast&utm_source=facebook&sf14414612=1&page=2

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For as long as I've known about Warmoth, Fender has sold replacement necks and bodies.
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Exactly, and fender doesn't have the offerings of Warmoth, fender's have no custom features and no exotic woods..Warmoth does... :icon_thumright:
 
Cederick said:
Somebody knows what the 404 error in the link is about? Can't see the stuff you're talking about there
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Try opening in a new tab. There I get the 404 error. If I then choose to open once more in a new tab it opens ok. Wonderful programming ...  :doh:
 
Too late, Fender. I've done just about all of the Fender builds I plan on doing, except maybe one body swap.

And reliablefender, stratosphere are great ebay sellers, used both a number of times for this or that part.
 
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