The heels for seven string neck blanks. Can you carve for an Ibanez AANJ Slot

[Kain VKail]

I want to know if they have enough wood in the heel and enough width to fit it? Maybe I could put Some kind of shim or something.

Does warmoth maybe give an upcharge of like 30-75 for a custom heel? cause I know they do custom headstocks for 50.

Does anyone have experience with this at all?

Cheers

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

The best bet for an answer from Warmoth is to contact them directly.  From time to time, the mods (who are Warmoth employees) will re-iterate to us that they can't, and don't, read every post or every thread, and this forum is not an official extension of the company.  The forum is a sales tool linked from the main Warmoth site (free techinical support from fellow enthusiasts) and has a permanent suggestion box thread, but the budget and time to run it is limited and seems to be on a voluntary basis from their end.  For the most part, it's a very laiseez faire attitude with a lot of self governing.

Short of that, I can only offer my best guess as to the nature of their custom work guided by their past responses.  They probably won't do a custom heel, even with accurate measurements from the customer because they can't guarantee the scale length and intonation (even if the neck pocket is dead on) like they could for a Fender neck or something they make that isn't Fender compatible; Bass VI, Gecko, etc.  It's asking them to make a part for a neck they don't make parts for.  However, they could probably sell a body with no neck heel/pocket routed and a strict no return policy.  It would be up to you to source a jig and have it routed.

Just my best guess, and not a fact.     

 

[stubhead]

Warmoth's seven strings have a 25" scale, so the 24th fret is 1/4 of that distance from the bridge: 6.25". I believe Ibanez sevens are all 25.5" scale? So their 24th fret is 6.375" from the bridge.
Warmoth: 6.250"
Ibanez:    6.375"

It's not much difference, but the pickup cavity is awful close, and the fretboard overhang is important too. I don't have an Ibanez 7 anymore I can make direct comparisons with, but if you can track down a schematic you might be able to figure it out. What Warmoth is gonna tell you is "no, it won't fit." But wood is just wood, anything can be MADE to fit - but if you have to be Joseph the carpenter crossed with Einstein, there are easier ways... are you trying to get some special, juicy wood neck?

 

[swarfrat]

Headstocks are a 2D bandsaw/router operation.  If you think machining time is expensive, you should see the going rate for headscratching.

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

Headstocks are a 2D bandsaw/router operation.  If you think machining time is expensive, you should see the going rate for headscratching.

I think he's needing a Warmoth body (heel and neck pocket specifically) for an Ibanez neck.

 

[Kain VKail]

Headstocks are a 2D bandsaw/router operation.  If you think machining time is expensive, you should see the going rate for headscratching.

I'm doing the head stock myself. I need the heel of a warmoth  seven string neck custom made or just whether I can make it fit myself with the amount of wood at the heel.

I just like warmoths neck shape for the standard thin. I don't have a problem carving the headatock and heel to fit the aanj, I'm just wondering if they would and if its bog enough or do I need to shim it. I just don't have a neck for comparison.

 

[swarfrat]

Headstocks are a 2D bandsaw/router operation.  If you think machining time is expensive, you should see the going rate for headscratching.

I think he's needing a Warmoth body (heel and neck pocket specifically) for an Ibanez neck.

Does warmoth maybe give an upcharge of like 30-75 for a custom heel? cause I know they do custom headstocks for 50.

Yes - I realize that. I was referring to his inference from custom headstocks that it might be possible for an upcharge. A headstock takes a minor amount of craftsmanship and very little headscratching. They will do custom necks and bodies though: customshop@warmoth.com

 

[Kain VKail]

Warmoth's seven strings have a 25" scale, so the 24th fret is 1/4 of that distance from the bridge: 6.25". I believe Ibanez sevens are all 25.5" scale? So their 24th fret is 6.375" from the bridge.
Warmoth: 6.250"
Ibanez:    6.375"

It's not much difference, but the pickup cavity is awful close, and the fretboard overhang is important too. I don't have an Ibanez 7 anymore I can make direct comparisons with, but if you can track down a schematic you might be able to figure it out. What Warmoth is gonna tell you is "no, it won't fit." But wood is just wood, anything can be MADE to fit - but if you have to be Joseph the carpenter crossed with Einstein, there are easier ways... are you trying to get some special, juicy wood neck?

that's the thing, I am carving it myself I'll post pics of what I've been working on. I'm trying to get a  Birdseye maple neck and the correct amount of wood at the heel. And the scale length kinda makes me upset. That .5 for the 25.5 makes a good bit of difference for my hands. Intonation can be fixed but comfort is harder to grasp.

 

[Kain VKail]

Headstocks are a 2D bandsaw/router operation.  If you think machining time is expensive, you should see the going rate for headscratching.

I think he's needing a Warmoth body (heel and neck pocket specifically) for an Ibanez neck.

Does warmoth maybe give an upcharge of like 30-75 for a custom heel? cause I know they do custom headstocks for 50.

Yes - I realize that. I was referring to his inference from custom headstocks that it might be possible for an upcharge. A headstock takes a minor amount of craftsmanship and very little headscratching. They will do custom necks and bodies though: customshop@warmoth.com

no I'll definitely talk to the custom shop though. I just want it to fit at the heel and be 25.5 with a blank headstock. I have a headstock shape I've carved a few times for other guitars.

maybe you guys know another luthier that will do a custom neck? Like I said the only reason I chose warmoth is for the standard thin neck, but that's not imperative.

 

[stubhead]

Go look around sevenstring.org -> forums -> luthiery and some names pop up, also in some of the topics. There's a couple of instrument maker forums, but there's more actual stuff pumping out of seven strings.

 

[TonyFlyingSquirrel]

If you're going from scratch, you may consider the Carvin 25.5" scale neck through blank, & go from there.

 

[swarfrat]

On the assumption you're putting a low B on a 25.5"..do check out:
http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/extended-range-guitars/10064-string-gauges-inharmonicity.html