migetkotla
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Has anyone installed, play or heard the Seymour Duncan Zeph Silvers? There are single coils for strats, humbuckers, and also for teles. Thanks for any info you can share!
Seymour Duncan Zephyr Silvers
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I believe @Orpheo has two free sets of Zephyr Humbuckers in two of his MANY LP's.migetkotla said:
Well I mean ..... he still had to work for them. Dose write-ups etc for SD.
http://www.unofficialwarmoth.com/index.php?topic=21258.msg314683#msg314683
If he doesn't see this post, PM him.
Probably not to much talk about them, because of the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Man they would have to be able to .......... wash the dishes & walk the dog ........ for that price :icon_biggrin:
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Among other things.... :icon_biggrin:Updown said:I believe @Orpheo has two free sets of Zephyr Humbuckers in two of his MANY LP's.migetkotla said:
Well I mean ..... he still had to work for them. Dose write-ups etc for SD.
http://www.unofficialwarmoth.com/index.php?topic=21258.msg314683#msg314683
If he doesn't see this post, PM him.
Probably not to much talk about them, because of the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Man they would have to be able to .......... wash the dishes & walk the dog ........ for that price :icon_biggrin:
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Orpheo has refused to post clips, stating that you won't hear the Zephyr "magic" due to limitations in recording and playback equipment. Infer from that what you will.
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That sounds positive. Sounds like a compliment.....thanks for the info!
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AYFKM? Silver wire?
Burstier? Wha... da... fuuuuuu...
*poit*
That did it. It finally happened. I have now lost all faith in humanity. Because there are people stupid enough to buy this shit. Audiophiles are getting bored with jacking off all over their own gear, now they're trying to spooge on mine as well.
No doubt this will be bought by the same assholes that own four Dumble clones, try to make the PERFECT replica of Robben's guitar, and need moar toanz for their P&W band.
I'm going to go shoot myself in the faceholes. I'll be back later.
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Burstier? Wha... da... fuuuuuu...
*poit*
That did it. It finally happened. I have now lost all faith in humanity. Because there are people stupid enough to buy this shit. Audiophiles are getting bored with jacking off all over their own gear, now they're trying to spooge on mine as well.
No doubt this will be bought by the same assholes that own four Dumble clones, try to make the PERFECT replica of Robben's guitar, and need moar toanz for their P&W band.
I'm going to go shoot myself in the faceholes. I'll be back later.
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Jumble Jumble said:
Meaning these pickups are full of shit and I hate everyone associated with them.
I'm not a fan of inference. Bludgeoning is my game.
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thearmofbarlow said:
I'm sure they meant bustier! :icon_jokercolor:
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My personal theory is that they probably sound quite nice, as do a lot of pickups. I also think that it's extremely unlikely I would consider them worth that amount of money when I hear them.
Silver wire will obviously have an effect on tone in the same way that different gauge copper wire does. But all effects on tone are subjective; neither is "better" than another.
I think that they're probably quite expensive to produce, and I suspect that when they realised they were going to be very expensive, they put the price up a little more so that they don't have to sell very many.
From people who have played them I have only ever heard good things. You'd think by now if they were such snake oil that someone somewhere on the internet who had actually played them would say so. But no, so far it's all positive.
It's reasonably likely that some time in the future I will play some, and I'll give my verdict if and when that day ever comes.
That price sure is a hell of a hurdle though.
Silver wire will obviously have an effect on tone in the same way that different gauge copper wire does. But all effects on tone are subjective; neither is "better" than another.
I think that they're probably quite expensive to produce, and I suspect that when they realised they were going to be very expensive, they put the price up a little more so that they don't have to sell very many.
From people who have played them I have only ever heard good things. You'd think by now if they were such snake oil that someone somewhere on the internet who had actually played them would say so. But no, so far it's all positive.
It's reasonably likely that some time in the future I will play some, and I'll give my verdict if and when that day ever comes.
That price sure is a hell of a hurdle though.
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I feel a bit like that too. Bu then, you can't tell a raw neck with a recording either. I guess there's an argument that some things just affect the way you play.
Closest thing is how if you record yourself with a mic'd amp or with a POD, most listeners won't be able to hear which is which. But it sure feels different, and that difference can really affect the quality of your playing.
This is all hypothetical though and I remain sceptical.
Closest thing is how if you record yourself with a mic'd amp or with a POD, most listeners won't be able to hear which is which. But it sure feels different, and that difference can really affect the quality of your playing.
This is all hypothetical though and I remain sceptical.
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The groups I work with have lots of live gigs............so the live sound makes a difference....or not. No doubt in my experience mic'ing the guitar amps is a plus with a decent mic......I mic my bass amp and also go from the head to the mixing board............so the same with my kick drum (sub kick mic and then audix entended far in almost to the beater)........my snare also uses two mics with one on top and one on the bottom............so much more control this way. Even with keyboards...........some songs just can't get decent horn sounds without mic'ing the keyboard amps.............so have Roland amps we mic up but also run the keys directly into the mixing board. Amazing how you can do all of this on just a 32 channel mixing board! :guitarplayer2:
If anyone does hear the Seymour Duncan Zephs/Silvers would appreciate your feedback on the live sound! Thanks.....
If anyone does hear the Seymour Duncan Zephs/Silvers would appreciate your feedback on the live sound! Thanks.....
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Yeah, seen that before. So they sound… uh, nice I guess? It's difficult to imagine how any video or clip could blow me away enough that I'd be throwing $1k at them, but that's certainly a nice tone.
They sound very "HD" to me, if that makes sense. I don't doubt they are great pickups, but nothing could persuade me to pay $1200 for a set up pickups, I don't care if they sound 10x better than every other set on the planet.
And I realize the price isn't that high just because they want to separate rich players from their cash, silver is a genuinely expensive material, and it sounds like making these is more labor intensive than most of their other products. But I can't imagine buying a solid gold guitar, and I can't imagine buying these. There are just too many other cool things I could spend $1200 of guitar cash on.
And I realize the price isn't that high just because they want to separate rich players from their cash, silver is a genuinely expensive material, and it sounds like making these is more labor intensive than most of their other products. But I can't imagine buying a solid gold guitar, and I can't imagine buying these. There are just too many other cool things I could spend $1200 of guitar cash on.
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I once worked for a company that made some really great stuff. Because someone once said "hey what if.." one of the parts was also made out of titanium. It was great to be sure but it was not not better just because of the material. Actually the regular made parts worked better. They really only kept making them for the people that just had to have one made that way.
So while it is very very cool, it is not necessarily better. I have found that while trying to make the "perfect" pickup a great deal of character can be imparted by the "imperfections". So less needs to be done to make it perfect and more time spent noticing the relationships.
Silver does conduct better but there are ways to improve that part of the coil without the cost.
This all reminds me of one of my favorite sayings. "If I were perfect, what would I do for fun?"
I do tip my hat to Seymour for at least, trying it. I know there are many of us that wanted to try it. In fact before this came out I had found some silver wire, but it was not coated(insullated) and I was not able to use it.
So while it is very very cool, it is not necessarily better. I have found that while trying to make the "perfect" pickup a great deal of character can be imparted by the "imperfections". So less needs to be done to make it perfect and more time spent noticing the relationships.
Silver does conduct better but there are ways to improve that part of the coil without the cost.
This all reminds me of one of my favorite sayings. "If I were perfect, what would I do for fun?"
I do tip my hat to Seymour for at least, trying it. I know there are many of us that wanted to try it. In fact before this came out I had found some silver wire, but it was not coated(insullated) and I was not able to use it.
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