many of us have smart phones. i am fond of the galaxy s series as it has a hifi quality wolfson wm8994 chip, and with thanks to a french developer named "supercurio" it's power is being unlocked. i was wondering who uses there smart phones for recording and what apps they are using. i know the iphone is going to be the popular phone in this discussion because better 3rd party support do to a small range or known hardware, but i would like to try recoding on android and if anyone knows of good apps id like to hear what people are using and feel free to discuss iphone stuff as well. i have one of those sitting around too
recording on smart phones?
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I think our own Jackthehack had something to do with the Galaxy? :icon_scratch:
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I work on the North American Sprint flavor.
I don't know of any equivalent software available for Android to what can be purchased/downloaded on iPhone/iPad.
While the hardware platform on many Android handsets is in the same ballpark as the iPhone, developers of music/recording software don't seem to be in much of a rush to develop for it. I can't even get Wolfgang's Vault (wolfgangsvault.com) to port their streaming app to Android.
Maybe this will change in the future as the aggregate number of Android devices proliferates....
I don't know of any equivalent software available for Android to what can be purchased/downloaded on iPhone/iPad.
While the hardware platform on many Android handsets is in the same ballpark as the iPhone, developers of music/recording software don't seem to be in much of a rush to develop for it. I can't even get Wolfgang's Vault (wolfgangsvault.com) to port their streaming app to Android.
Maybe this will change in the future as the aggregate number of Android devices proliferates....
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Jack, you know this market a lot better than most here, but it would seem the smartphone market is kinda like iPhone has about 50% share atm, while Android and Windows share the remainder 50%.....I thought I had an early version of Android on my phone (HTC Touch Pro2) but it has Win Mobile.....which has the usual Windows moments of not doing what it is supposed to do.... If Android is more stable, I'd say a lot of us on Win Mobile will be searching for an Android phone on our next purchase....I'm more keen to get an Android smartphone than an iPhone in the future.
android isn't necessarily more stable but it is certainly powerful! also companies are pushing the harware along alot faseter than apple can hope to keep up with right now but the hardware is varied and each manufacturer has proprietary software build in, making android become fracutered like linux. there are apps that only work on one particular phone and apps that only work on now obsolete versions and apps that only work on new versions. so there are some chalanges but the total number of android devices world wide is way larger than the total number of ios based devices. so it is a huge market to tap into. piracy is easy on android and that may be scaring corperations away. but the number of people with rooted devices and access to the system files are few and far between and most dont pirate much software if any at all. there are rules on the developers forums and warez is strictly prohibited. that doesnt mean that software firms are any more comfortable with the idea. there is some pretty good independant stuff out there but i have only seen a few in the area of music and recording. i was just wondering if anyone has found anything good.
well it looks like i might try to run linux debian squeeze on my phone side by side with android. if i can get fluxbox to launch applications maybe i can find one that works on phone hardware. i think it will be too slow on a single core chip though. maybe i can find the cash for a galaxy s 2 or get an early upgrade to an atrix.
well it looks like i might try to run linux debian squeeze on my phone side by side with android. if i can get fluxbox to launch applications maybe i can find one that works on phone hardware. i think it will be too slow on a single core chip though. maybe i can find the cash for a galaxy s 2 or get an early upgrade to an atrix.
^whitch one? it is coming to a select few models that run a particular qualcom processor. htc uses qualcom processors so it might come available for you very soon. older models will not be supported right away, maybe never, and i can only hope that samsung is striking a similar deal that qualcom did to get netflix.
^hmmmm that one is not known yet. it is a snapdragon but it might only be the newer snapdragons with a smaller architecture and better graphics processors like the desire z(g2) and desire hd(inspire 4g) that will run it. quallcom said some snapdraggon phones will run netflix but did not release a list of specific chipsets that it will work with.
im a little upset because there is no word on if it will ever work with hummingbird chips, it is obvious that the chip is not the limitation as netflix works fine on the iphone4 with a nearly identical cpu and a slower gpu and over 60% higher pixel count. and hell it even works on the iphone 3g at a mear 400mhz. it is just a question of drm and other anti pirating measures which im sure the hummingbird can support but maybe just in a different way.
there is always fastpasstv.eu which im sure is entirely illegal and may get blocked in the us at some point, the video quality sux but isn't too bad to watch on a phone.
im a little upset because there is no word on if it will ever work with hummingbird chips, it is obvious that the chip is not the limitation as netflix works fine on the iphone4 with a nearly identical cpu and a slower gpu and over 60% higher pixel count. and hell it even works on the iphone 3g at a mear 400mhz. it is just a question of drm and other anti pirating measures which im sure the hummingbird can support but maybe just in a different way.
there is always fastpasstv.eu which im sure is entirely illegal and may get blocked in the us at some point, the video quality sux but isn't too bad to watch on a phone.
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Don't know about the Australian market, but as of the 4Q 2011 numbers Android market share in the US was just a hair higher than iPhone; 26% vs. 25% respectively (note this is for smart phones, not all phones). I expect that trend to stay about the same when the 1Q 2011 numbers post in a couple of weeks with both Android and Apple gaining more market share.
You can't give Windows Phone 7 handsets away, most models are down to $99 and they still can't do any volume.
Don't get in a hurry to buy an Atrix, the latest software update to the handset, and new factory binary lock down the bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12333986#post12333986
I think Netflix is still in the process of tweaking their Android application before making wider release. It could certainly run on a Hummingbird/Snapdragon CPU, much less the dual core Snapdragon/Samsung Exynos (Orion) chips shipping later this year. Other issues are that the carriers all want you on WiFi to use the app so as not to choke their networks with even more video streaming and how to keep hackers from enabling HDMI out on DRM'ed content.
Don't know about the Australian market, but as of the 4Q 2011 numbers Android market share in the US was just a hair higher than iPhone; 26% vs. 25% respectively (note this is for smart phones, not all phones). I expect that trend to stay about the same when the 1Q 2011 numbers post in a couple of weeks with both Android and Apple gaining more market share.
You can't give Windows Phone 7 handsets away, most models are down to $99 and they still can't do any volume.
Don't get in a hurry to buy an Atrix, the latest software update to the handset, and new factory binary lock down the bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12333986#post12333986
I think Netflix is still in the process of tweaking their Android application before making wider release. It could certainly run on a Hummingbird/Snapdragon CPU, much less the dual core Snapdragon/Samsung Exynos (Orion) chips shipping later this year. Other issues are that the carriers all want you on WiFi to use the app so as not to choke their networks with even more video streaming and how to keep hackers from enabling HDMI out on DRM'ed content.
jack do you follow xda? and what sub forums do you follow?
i am aware of the locked boot loader on the atrix, linux can run side by side on android. i can start linux from a terminal emulator. and the tegra 2 chip should have plenty of power to run applications, just need to find stuff that can run on a phone. but at this point it's getting to complicated to use it in a practiacal way. would be more of a tech demo if i got it to work than something i would use.
believe me id buy a samsung way before i bought a motorola, i can list a number of things that dont impress me about the atrix, in many ways the droid x was better, and in some ways the galaxy s is better than both. but in pure computing power it at the moment is the best at least for a few more weeks. i know the orion chipset is coming soon but i cant find any proof that it will be available on contract on att at some point this year. unless of coarse the infuse is a dual core phone. the current information says it will be a hummingbird @ 1.2ghz with 1gig of ram, 4.5inch screen and hspa+ but i know samsung like to deny things untill release day. the infuse pics dont have any galaxy s reference on them. one source quotes samsung saying that it doesn't qualify as a galaxy s phone, why not? it seems to be a cross between a galaxy s 4g and a galaxy s 2 by all current specs, how is that not a galaxy s?. what is samsung hiding? there was also a rumor that it was getting a qualcom chip, and a rumor that the galaxy s 2 may get a tegra2 in some markets because the orion isn't ready yet. i dont know where these rumors came from and not all of them can be true but the nexus s was rumored since the release of the galaxy s and samsung denied it till photos were released from best buy. makes me wonder what they might unveil at the last minute.
all questions are rhetorical. just demonstrating the confusion right now in deciding whether to keep my phone or get something new.
also why would they not want netflix to go out through hdmi? what is the point in having it on your phone if you need wifi and cant view it on a tv? isn't the point to have it available to you in a hotel or while traveling long distences? maybe some planes have wifi but why would i watch netflix in another situation that i had wifi and no tv? if that is how it is implimented on android then i dont want it! also why worry about a few hackers? most users are afraid to root there phones. and the developers try to keep it legitimate. so there is really only a small group of people to worry about, also there are better ways to steal media than stream it to a phone via a pay service and record it, most of the hacking will be to enable it on devices that it isn't supposed to run on, it sounds more like an effort to sell newer phones by making older models less desireable.
i am aware of the locked boot loader on the atrix, linux can run side by side on android. i can start linux from a terminal emulator. and the tegra 2 chip should have plenty of power to run applications, just need to find stuff that can run on a phone. but at this point it's getting to complicated to use it in a practiacal way. would be more of a tech demo if i got it to work than something i would use.
believe me id buy a samsung way before i bought a motorola, i can list a number of things that dont impress me about the atrix, in many ways the droid x was better, and in some ways the galaxy s is better than both. but in pure computing power it at the moment is the best at least for a few more weeks. i know the orion chipset is coming soon but i cant find any proof that it will be available on contract on att at some point this year. unless of coarse the infuse is a dual core phone. the current information says it will be a hummingbird @ 1.2ghz with 1gig of ram, 4.5inch screen and hspa+ but i know samsung like to deny things untill release day. the infuse pics dont have any galaxy s reference on them. one source quotes samsung saying that it doesn't qualify as a galaxy s phone, why not? it seems to be a cross between a galaxy s 4g and a galaxy s 2 by all current specs, how is that not a galaxy s?. what is samsung hiding? there was also a rumor that it was getting a qualcom chip, and a rumor that the galaxy s 2 may get a tegra2 in some markets because the orion isn't ready yet. i dont know where these rumors came from and not all of them can be true but the nexus s was rumored since the release of the galaxy s and samsung denied it till photos were released from best buy. makes me wonder what they might unveil at the last minute.
all questions are rhetorical. just demonstrating the confusion right now in deciding whether to keep my phone or get something new.
also why would they not want netflix to go out through hdmi? what is the point in having it on your phone if you need wifi and cant view it on a tv? isn't the point to have it available to you in a hotel or while traveling long distences? maybe some planes have wifi but why would i watch netflix in another situation that i had wifi and no tv? if that is how it is implimented on android then i dont want it! also why worry about a few hackers? most users are afraid to root there phones. and the developers try to keep it legitimate. so there is really only a small group of people to worry about, also there are better ways to steal media than stream it to a phone via a pay service and record it, most of the hacking will be to enable it on devices that it isn't supposed to run on, it sounds more like an effort to sell newer phones by making older models less desireable.
