Raffle Guitar Build

[tfarny]

Alf, I don't get it, there's a ton of threads I never read, you don't need to read the raffle threads if you're not interested. This is just a fun thing, I don't see how it's embarassing anybody. And for OCguy, he's not having to do anything now, it's the organizing beforehand that takes all the time, and he did a great job at that. Bad day at the office for you maybe?

 

[blue313]

Sorry Alf, I didn't mean to piss anyone off.

Just about everything's picked out and the polls are almost done.  I'll delete the polls when they close (tomorrow night) and that'll contain it to one thread at least.

 

[Alfang]

you guys are right, I missfired, didn't mean to go as overboard as I did,

For a minute there I thought I was seeing something no one else was, and that was too much exposure on a perhaps Taboo practice.

The bottom line is, I really don't know if someone will shut down the raffle or not,  But like everything in life, if it's fun it's gotta be taxed or illegal.

So my bad for my rant, appologies all arround

I'd like to thank dbw for my mindset at the time

 

[dbw]

You're welcome!  .. I guess  :icon_scratch:

 

[DocNrock]

No worries, Alf...forgiven.  Now help us with Blue's build!  :icon_thumright:

 

[blue313]

I kind of see it like office pools, superbowl pools, fantasy sports, etc.  So long as its not many many thousands of dollars, and not very often, its no big deal.

 

[clearerphish]

I kind of see it like office pools, superbowl pools, fantasy sports, etc.  So long as its not many many thousands of dollars, and not very often, its no big deal.

I'm surprised to even see this sentiment here. I would assume you could do raffle after raffle - winner will be paying full price/sales tax to W, right? Where's the problem? What if it happened day after day? Guitar enthusiasts raffling away guitars? It's not like guitars or raffles are illegal?

 

[Mr. E.]

I kind of see it like office pools, superbowl pools, fantasy sports, etc.  So long as its not many many thousands of dollars, and not very often, its no big deal.

I'm surprised to even see this sentiment here. I would assume you could do raffle after raffle - winner will be paying full price/sales tax to W, right? Where's the problem? What if it happened day after day? Guitar enthusiasts raffling away guitars? It's not like guitars or raffles are illegal?

actually, I just did some poking around online, and basically, a raffle is NOT legal. This form of one anyway. A raffle must, in most cases, benefit a charity. It looks to be fairly complex, and the laws vary from state-to-state. It is considered gambling, and there's some big time laws dealing with that 

A "contest" doesn't have to benefit a charity, but a contest has to have a "no purchase necessary" option. And that varies too (that's why everything seems to be void in Rhode Island).

It looks to be a tangled mess, and probably something we shouldn't do much. Or again. We can plead ignorance once, but...


-erik

 

[Mr. E.]

the legality seems to be more open if "no purchase necessary" OR if it was a contest of skill (and not random luck). The Blind, random part of it seems to be the sticky part.

I know, I know... why didn't I look this up before? Never crossed my mind until now.

-erik

 

[tfarny]

All right, somebody needs to set this straight - what we just did: We each gave between 10 and 30 dollars to our friend Blue. Like as in birthday present, gift, whatever. There's no legal issue whatsoever, so chill out.  :glasses9:

 

[Mr. E.]

All right, somebody needs to set this straight - what we just did: We each gave between 10 and 30 dollars to our friend Blue. Like as in birthday present, gift, whatever. There's no legal issue whatsoever, so chill out.  :glasses9:

absolutely right! nothing wrong with everyone pitching in to buy a buddy a guitar.

:glasses10:

-erik

 

[ByteFrenzy]

1) some of us even pitched in to help a buddy buy a buddy a guitar
2) why don't we make it, like, a late valentine present?
3) what legislation would actually apply? the one where unofficial W is hosted? The one where they host the dice that were rolled? The home of the person who organized it? The home of the person who won it? This is a vereeeee long stretch of legal ground to cover.

 

[rounce55]

I kind of see it like office pools, superbowl pools, fantasy sports, etc.  So long as its not many many thousands of dollars, and not very often, its no big deal.

I'm surprised to even see this sentiment here. I would assume you could do raffle after raffle - winner will be paying full price/sales tax to W, right? Where's the problem? What if it happened day after day? Guitar enthusiasts raffling away guitars? It's not like guitars or raffles are illegal?

actually, I just did some poking around online, and basically, a raffle is NOT legal. This form of one anyway. A raffle must, in most cases, benefit a charity. It looks to be fairly complex, and the laws vary from state-to-state. It is considered gambling, and there's some big time laws dealing with that 

A "contest" doesn't have to benefit a charity, but a contest has to have a "no purchase necessary" option. And that varies too (that's why everything seems to be void in Rhode Island).

It looks to be a tangled mess, and probably something we shouldn't do much. Or again. We can plead ignorance once, but...


-erik

I never even thought of it like gambling.

 

[rockskate4x]

screw legality... we ain't hurtin no one...

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

Gift tax maybe, or report it as income?  Who cares?  This is so off of the radar for anyone that matters.  On with the build.

 

[Alfang]

Ok, someone come up with a good story and we'll all stick to it

 

[guitlouie]

We all just felt bad that poor old Blue only had one measley little Warmoth, so we just did what any good friends would do, kicked in a little cash to help a brother out.  What raffle? 

 

[tfarny]

Since no one has even bothered to find a specific law, or ID the relevant state that such a law might have been broken in, I have no idea why this conversation is continuing, and I recommend you stop talking about it.

 

[blue313]

So...two of the polls have closed.

Body core - Black Korina  - 23 (71.9%)
Neck back - Wenge  - 18 (56.3%)


After the last two close later I'll zap all four of em just to keep this a lil more tidy.  The interesting one is the top so far!

 

[Wana_make_a_guitar]

So...two of the polls have closed.

Body core - Black Korina  - 23 (71.9%)
Neck back - Wenge  - 18 (56.3%)


After the last two close later I'll zap all four of em just to keep this a lil more tidy.  The interesting one is the top so far!

Yes!!! Lets hope the Indian rosewood and ebony work out!