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Superlizard said:
I'd go with Soundgarden Badmotorfinger and a handful of AiC tunes, but the 90's were pretty much forgettable.

You know how they have tributes to the 50's 60's 70's 80's?  In the media?

The 90's?  Pfft.  Nothing to really speak about.  It was the first decade to have no soul of its own.

And it didn't have a "soul" because having a "soul" meant you stood for something or another, and doing so
was deemed "offensive" (this ties right in with the "no solos, no extravagance" music philosophy).  It was
more "noble" to be deemed a nobody/loser who stood for nobody and nothing.

But nothing=forgettable.

And c'mon - dinosaurrockguitar.com ownz 'em all...

...the guitar gods doth lurketh in there, after all.

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Or to sum up (musically speaking again):

Even though I am pretty much opposed to all they stood for, I would respect a 60's hippie any day over
a (similar-aged) 90's flannel-wearing stand-for-nothing navel-gazer.

Because the hippie stood for something at least.  And that's why they're memorable and therefore
etched into our music history.

Hi.

This strikes me as kind of... uninformed. There is a great big difference between "I can relate to this music" and "there is nothing relatable in this music" and to me it sounds like you are confusing the two in the above quote. As someone who came to musical conciousness in the 1990's, let me tell you that there was plenty of standing-up for various beliefs and vast amounts of superb music being done.

Here, for example, we had a big straight edge/hardcore scene with bands like Refused getting some serious international attention. A band called Kent made it cool to sing in Swedish again and have almost on their own re-defined what "mainstream" is while at their best staying on the edge of it themselves (much like U2 have done on an international level). There was Radiohead, Björk and many more creating great new music.

If you don't like it that's fine, but don't say it had no soul. That soul was just shaped differently.


Hey, how about that rack gear?
 
I got some rack gear. Even my speakers are sorta racky...

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kboman said:
Hi.

This strikes me as kind of... uninformed.

I'm speaking entirely of the American music scene and American going-ons of the 90's... as well
as along the lines of "American Decades In The 20th Century" (comparatively).

Aside from the Gulf War, Clinton/Lewinsky scandal, Clinton impeachment, Soundgarden's Badmotorfinger and a couple of EJ albums, the 90's were a black hole to me.
 
Superlizard said:
Aside from the Gulf War, Clinton/Lewinsky scandal, Clinton impeachment, Soundgarden's Badmotorfinger and a couple of EJ albums, the 90's were a black hole to me.

That's a pretty broad statement.  :icon_scratch:
I know you and I have different taste in music, but what about these artist from the 90's?
All of which I really liked. I'm sure in this list there must be some you like?
Many of which I would think are right up your alley for musical styles:

Pearl Jam?
Temple of the Dog?
Radiohead?
R.E.M.?
U2?
Oasis?
Dave Matthews Band?
Foo Fighters?
The Black Crows?
Lenny Kravitz?
The Mighty Mighty Bosstones?
Blind Melon?
Kenny Wayne Shepherd Band?
Matchbox Twenty?
Blues Traveler?

BTW, Clinton wasn't impeached, but he should have been.  :icon_thumright:
 
Superlizard said:
kboman said:
Hi.

This strikes me as kind of... uninformed.

I'm speaking entirely of the American music scene and American going-ons of the 90's... as well
as along the lines of "American Decades In The 20th Century" (comparatively).

Ah, gotcha. Apart from R.E.M. and probably someone else I can't remember right now, I actually have to agree. There was a lot going on in Europe in the 90's and I think it had a strong effect on the music made here. For me the 90's is a culturally very rich decade, with a strong dichotomy between nihilism and hope/rebirth. Both sides created a lot of rubbish as well as a lot of life changing stuff.
 
Death by Uberschall said:
Superlizard said:
Aside from the Gulf War, Clinton/Lewinsky scandal, Clinton impeachment, Soundgarden's Badmotorfinger and a couple of EJ albums, the 90's were a black hole to me.

That's a pretty broad statement.  :icon_scratch:
I know you and I have different taste in music, but what about these artist from the 90's?
All of which I really liked. I'm sure in this list there must be some you like?
Many of which I would think are right up your alley for musical styles:

Pearl Jam? (a handful of tunes are good))
Temple of the Dog? (hunger strike was O.K.)
Radiohead? (no way)
R.E.M.? (no way)
U2? (New Year's Day, Sunday Bloody Sunday is it for me - 80's)
Oasis? (god no)
Dave Matthews Band? (epitome of 90's navel-gazing - hell no)
Foo Fighters? (nope)
The Black Crows? (good but not always - I have Amorica)
Lenny Kravitz? (meh)
The Mighty Mighty Bosstones? (naw)
Blind Melon? (we used to make fun of "No Rain" lyrics)
Kenny Wayne Shepherd Band? (naw)
Matchbox Twenty? (no way)
Blues Traveler? (no way)

BTW, Clinton wasn't impeached, but he should have been.  :icon_thumright:

Unadulterated opinions in ellipses above per artist... and I did not have sexual relations with that woman.

And hey, how about Hootie and the Blowfish?  :icon_jokercolor:
 
The 90s were great, for all the reasons listed above.  Superlizard, I hate to break this to you, but the 80s were the absolute worst decade musically, EVER.  And that is a scientifically proven fact*.

And Bill Clinton was impeached... and acquitted. 

* Disclaimer: not necessarily scientific, proven, or factual
 
dbw said:
Superlizard, I hate to break this to you, but the 80s were the absolute worst decade musically, EVER.  And that is a scientifically proven fact*.

I agree - Overall (including all music genres), I put the 80's with the 90's musically.

...with a few caveats:  

- There's memorable (not necessarily good) stuff from the 80's.

- Hard rock/metal/hair metal thrived in the 80's, along with guitar virtuosos.

OTOH, the 70's were it, man.  There was good stuff in every musical genre, and
many a music legend was created then.
 
Superlizard said:
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OTOH, the 70's were it, man.  There was good stuff in every musical genre, and
many a music legend was created then.

But the 70's were responsible for DISCO!!!!

Not to be the utlimate diplomat here, but every musical decade has had its share of greats and crap.  For example, the 80's gave us Back in Black, Master of Puppets, most of The Police's best stuff, and even though it was released in 1979, Pink Floyd's The Wall can also be considered an 80's album.  That is also not to mention Randy Rhoads' recordings with Ozzy, most of U2's stuff, and (love it or hate it) Micheal Jackson's Thriller, which is still one of the most popular albums of all time.
Grunge in the 90's was pretty much responsible for the death of hair metal, which is not entirely a bad thing.  But the 90's also saw the serious emergance of hip hop, which is one musical form I personally cannot stomach.

So yeah, every decade is responsible for amazing and amazingly awful ... depending on your point of view.
 
Actually, Clinton was impeached by the house, but the senate aquitted by missing a 2/3 majority. Otherwise, he'd have lost there, too. Conventional wisdom was there's no doubt as to his guilt, but it would have been bad for the country's morale at the time, so they voted in such a way as to make it clear what they thought, but didn't go far enough to make it stick. It would have been a pyrric victory in any event, as he was a lame duck at that point. Had the whole thing taken place during his first term, it's highly unlikely they'd have let it slide. Also, it's commonly thought that it was messing with that butterface Lewinsky that got him in trouble, but it wasn't. It was about lying. Real lying, not the kind Bush's detractors liked to accuse him of. He perjured himself, and had to be let go as a result.

In any event, I'm pretty sure we're not supposed to discuss politics here, so I don't want to get into it any further, but there's a great deal of material on the 'net for those of you who would like to review history.
 
AndyG said:
But the 70's were responsible for DISCO!!!!

Why is that bad?

(heheheh)

The 70's were also responsible for creating (either starting out, or solidifying status) legends like:

THIN LIZZY
Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
Black Sabbath
Boston
Journey
Aerosmith
AC/DC
Van Halen
Blue Oyster Cult
Deep Purple
KISS
Foghat (no, not really)

etc... on and on huge list (and that's just rock genre)
 
While I agree that the 70s were awesome for music, I hate almost all of those bands.  Pink Floyd is the exception. 

-Mark
 
AprioriMark said:
While I agree that the 70s were awesome for music, I hate almost all of those bands.  Pink Floyd is the exception. 

-Mark

Same here... King Crimson needs to be on any "great bands of the 70's" list for starters.
 
Superlizard said:
Aside from the Gulf War, Clinton/Lewinsky scandal, Clinton impeachment, Soundgarden's Badmotorfinger and a couple of EJ albums, the 90's were a black hole to me.

That's because you died back in the late 80's and still haven't realized it yet. You can let go now. :laughing7:
 
AprioriMark said:
While I agree that the 70s were awesome for music, I hate almost all of those bands.  Pink Floyd is the exception. 

-Mark

I've never heard of anybody hating Zep.  Unlike a lot of those 70s bands, Zep had no replaceable members.  The Stones could be the Stones with only Mick and "Keef."  Aerosmith just needs Steven Tyler and possibly Joe Perry.  The Beatles could even lose Ringo and nobody would notice.  AC/DC and Van Halen replaced lead singers and still did okay (even better financially) because the band is built around the guitar player.  Who in Zep is replaceable?
 
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