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Ah yes, Rush...one of my all time favorites for sure.....even today when you see them play, the solos are pretty much note for note...lol.....Im sure as a player it may get a bit boring, but it may also explain why the music of Rush is so melodically complex and interesting. A player can only get better if every note is considered sacred as he said, Im thinking it would only help to make future composing even more interesting and of a much higher caliber as there would be more "refined" experience to draw from.
Can you imagine how awesome Yngwie Malmsteen would be if he would play every solo he ever wrote note for note in concert.....mind blowing for sure.... the only thing I never liked about his live performances were that alot of his spontaneous solos were dull and repetitive and he rarely played his songs as he wrote them....If he had I think he would have been regarded even greater than he was.
Can you imagine how awesome Yngwie Malmsteen would be if he would play every solo he ever wrote note for note in concert.....mind blowing for sure.... the only thing I never liked about his live performances were that alot of his spontaneous solos were dull and repetitive and he rarely played his songs as he wrote them....If he had I think he would have been regarded even greater than he was.
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Superbeast520 said:
I watched the Live in Brazil DVD. Whereas most concerts are songs occasionally interrupted by unaccompanied solos, Yngwie is just the opposite. It seemed like it was just one long solo spot and about three times an hour the band would walk back on and play for a few minutes...
I work with my computer for at least a few hours every day, and I've gotten really familiar with the concerts at www.sugarmegs.org. It's almost shocking how vibrant and alive the older stuff sounds from the late-Duane Allman Brothers, the 1st-edition Mahavishnu, the glory years of the Grateful Dead (1972-1974). Back then, bands were not trying to "put on a show", they didn't give a rat's ass about hitting exactly the right notes or the right facial expressions - they were trying to grab hold of the universe and warp it for a few hours. Dial up the Allmans last few recordings with Duane, 71-8-27 and 71-9-16.
http://tela.sugarmegs.org/_asxtela/AllmanBrothersBand1971-06-27FillmoreEastNYC.asx
"Elizabeth Reed" starts at 20:04, Duane's solo starts at 27:59. It's completely different than the live album version, and sure he hits a few clams. But it KILLS, in a way poor Alex Lifeson could never even understand. Duane's not even trying to "put on a show" - he's got higher goals. The triumph of robot rock 'n' roll has been a sad thing... If you listen to a sugarmegs concert of the "new" Allmans, post-2001 with Warren Haynes & Derek Trucks, it sounds extremely competent, well-played - and tame and dull as shit.
The difference between Page on his best nights, and McLaughlin, Garcia & Allman on their best was that *you get good at what you work at.* Page was a genius songwriter, arranger, engineer.... when he tried to veer into hippieland ("Dazed and Confused"), ugh. The others very specifically practiced and worked towards using their guitars as mind-control weapons. :evil4:
My favorite bands and players of this new century all record live with the band for the most part, at least the base tracks. Listen to OHM, Julien Kasper and Oz Noy, and see if they sound different to you than Joe Bonamassa, John Mayer or any of the other meticulous "heroes." Knowing how to improvise is no "gift", it's a result of a lot of hard work.
http://tela.sugarmegs.org/_asxtela/AllmanBrothersBand1971-06-27FillmoreEastNYC.asx
"Elizabeth Reed" starts at 20:04, Duane's solo starts at 27:59. It's completely different than the live album version, and sure he hits a few clams. But it KILLS, in a way poor Alex Lifeson could never even understand. Duane's not even trying to "put on a show" - he's got higher goals. The triumph of robot rock 'n' roll has been a sad thing... If you listen to a sugarmegs concert of the "new" Allmans, post-2001 with Warren Haynes & Derek Trucks, it sounds extremely competent, well-played - and tame and dull as shit.
The difference between Page on his best nights, and McLaughlin, Garcia & Allman on their best was that *you get good at what you work at.* Page was a genius songwriter, arranger, engineer.... when he tried to veer into hippieland ("Dazed and Confused"), ugh. The others very specifically practiced and worked towards using their guitars as mind-control weapons. :evil4:
My favorite bands and players of this new century all record live with the band for the most part, at least the base tracks. Listen to OHM, Julien Kasper and Oz Noy, and see if they sound different to you than Joe Bonamassa, John Mayer or any of the other meticulous "heroes." Knowing how to improvise is no "gift", it's a result of a lot of hard work.
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