my kind of "hope and change"

[GoDrex]

Add that to the fact that I'm part Irish and well there ya go... just blew your mind.   :toothy10:

What does being part irish have to do with anything? Are you a drunk? hehehe :laughing7:

My ancestors are mostly irish too, but I'm an american born and raised. Being part irish means almost nothing to me. I'm also partially lefthanded, though don't spread it around, I'm not proud of it.  :laughing7:

 

[Superlizard]

SuperL, your guitar threads are helpful. Your politics threads are kind of a joke - I kind of wonder if you are serious. You just throw out whatever attacks you heard on the AM radio or O'Reilly that day and then complain that 'liberals' are a bunch of emotional whiners who don't care about facts. When someone offers facts that contradict you, you ignore the facts and get emotional again. So I guess you're right, I don't 'respect' any of your posts on the subject, I see no reason to.

Lucky provided the context for that Hillary quote which makes the point yet again - she was explaining to a group of wealthy democratic donors that they would be paying higher taxes. The 'common good' can be defined in a lot of non-scary ways if the phrase scares you - public schooling, roads, fire and police, universities, disaster preparedness, the military. Balancing the budget is a common good as well. A useful debate we should have right now is whether health care is included in the common good. Why does this have to be explained to a voting age adult, though?
If you guys want to run around like Jim Cramer's recent chicken little act, all emotional, go right ahead. It doesn't bother me.

Ah, so my guitar threads are "helpful".  LOL

The funny thing is I don't listen to AM radio, nor O'Reilly, nor Rush, etc... .  That's just the big ol' broad brush you like to use when you have no viable argument.  You'll also feign agreement with any other conservative-minded comment here as long as I'm involved in the discussion.  You also play the "you're emotional" card (yet another technique of yours to try to discredit) when the fact is you and your ilk here have repeatedly spazzed out against conservative opinion.

Your technique... and reputation... doth preceedeth you.  :icon_biggrin:

-BTW, that Hillary quote - that's been around for years... it's well known.

 

[Superlizard]

Being part irish means almost nothing to me.

You should hang your head in shame.

I'm also partially lefthanded, though don't spread it around, I'm not proud of it.

Being partially left-handed doesn't count... if you were a true lefty, you'd be proud.   :icon_biggrin:

 

[dbw]

How can you be a partial lefty?  ???

 

[Rick]

The pendulum's swung in the other direction.  The "conservative" policies have failed and it's time for the more liberal ones.  I found it interesting how those parts of the country were the economy is good voted for McCain and those where it's bad voted for Obama.  Here's a map.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/03/03/us/20090303_LEONHARDT.html?bl&ex=1236402000&en=42e1e643277ffc5c&ei=5087%0A

So I guess it all depends on whose ox is being gored on how you feel.

And who isn't part Irish ... St Pat's is right around the corner.

 

[GoDrex]

How can you be a partial lefty?   ???

I do certain things left handed and certain things right handed. For instance I write and eat left handed. I play sports and guitar right handed.

 

[GoDrex]

Being part irish means almost nothing to me.

You should hang your head in shame.

Nah that's OK. I've never been to Ireland and have no plans to go. It means very little to me, other than the fact that I sunburn easily. I'm also part German. My ancestors could come from sweden or russia or wherever. As far as I'm concerned I'm American and that's all that matters to me.

 

[Superlizard]

The pendulum's swung in the other direction.  The "conservative" policies have failed and it's time for the more liberal ones.  I found it interesting how those parts of the country were the economy is good voted for McCain and those where it's bad voted for Obama.  Here's a map.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/03/03/us/20090303_LEONHARDT.html?bl&ex=1236402000&en=42e1e643277ffc5c&ei=5087%0A

So I guess it all depends on whose ox is being gored on how you feel.

And who isn't part Irish ... St Pat's is right around the corner.

Well, the recent group that has been on the conservative side isn't truly conservative (Bush the fiscal liberal).  Even McCain isn't a true conservative (he likes to label himself a "maverick").  The current "conservative" group has dropped the ball and they'd better start picking up the slack, or we're headed for an Uncle Joe gov't.  Checks and balances, baby.

Personally, I want Reagan back.

 

[Superlizard]

I do certain things left handed and certain things right handed. For instance I write and eat left handed. I play sports and guitar right handed.

You just haven't made up your mind yet.

Search your feelings... you know it to be true... join us and embrace the sinister side of the hand.

 

[dbw]

I do certain things left handed and certain things right handed. For instance I write and eat left handed. I play sports and guitar right handed.

You just haven't made up your mind yet.

Search your feelings... you know it to be true... join us and embrace the sinister side of the hand.

No!!  Don't do it, Gary!  Think of the scissors!

 

[stubhead]

If a Wall Street bond trader is 150 million times smarter & harder working than a fry cook at McDonald's, doesn't it bother you even a little bit that Paris Hilton is at least 50 million times smarter & harder working than you? :icon_scratch:

 

[GoDrex]

I do certain things left handed and certain things right handed. For instance I write and eat left handed. I play sports and guitar right handed.

You just haven't made up your mind yet.

Search your feelings... you know it to be true... join us and embrace the sinister side of the hand.

No!!  Don't do it, Gary!  Think of the scissors!

Don't worry - the last thing I want to become is fully lefty. Then I'd have to make posts here whining about the lack of stuff in the showcase. :laughing7:

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

Checks and balances, baby.

Checks and balances refers to the three branches of government, not political parties.

 

[Superlizard]

Checks and balances, baby.

Checks and balances refers to the three branches of government, not political parties.

Yes, and why do you suppose they instituted "checks and balances"?

I speak of the reasoning behind it ("checks and balances"), not the literal interpretation that you posted.

 

[dbw]

I dunno why conservatives are so worked up over losing 'all three' branches... Republicans appointed 7 of the 9 Supreme Court justices...

 

[Lucky #7]

On Paris, I think we're talking generally about people who have earned their own money.  What she has earned herself she earned from people who actually care what she does.  I don't think we need to discuss their intelligence as they're either scary stupid adults or teenage girls who often have the intelligence of a gnat.

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

Checks and balances, baby.

Checks and balances refers to the three branches of government, not political parties.

Yes, and why do you suppose they instituted "checks and balances"?

I speak of the reasoning behind it ("checks and balances"), not the literal interpretation that you posted.

Eh, I've lost interest already.

 

[Superlizard]

On Paris, I think we're talking generally about people who have earned their own money.  What she has earned herself she earned from people who actually care what she does.  I don't think we need to discuss their intelligence as they're either scary stupid adults or teenage girls who often have the intelligence of a gnat.

Yep.

And I could actually care less that Paris Hilton has far more money than I have.

In fact, you could take someone who inherited a fortune; didn't lift a finger for it... and it still wouldn't bother me in the least.

I really don't see what the big deal is.

What bothers me money-wise is when some socialist dumbass, who is s'posed to represent myself and the people, takes out my wallet, takes
a couple hundred out of it and gives it to an unemployed Octo-mom.

 

[GoDrex]

hehehe I think SuperLimbaugh is a really a writer from the Onion in disguise.  :laughing7:

 

[Alfang]

Hey Tfarney,  we may disagree on a few things, but I am open minded enough to know when my opponent knows what he's talking about, and I really respect when he (she) backs it up with logical thinking, and can articulate his point.

I don't hate liberals, I am part liberal too, ie.., if the govt spent it's money wisely we could easily, and I mean EASILY, have a national health care system, without raising taxes a bunch.

I think most conservatives are passionate, and patriotic, we want everyone to succeed and be happy, we just don't want it mandated by the fed govt.    ie.... the beatings will continue untill morale improves

Surprisingly this has been a fairly nice thread, not too much mud flinging, Proud to be a part of it.....