my kind of "hope and change"

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dbw

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Hooray for middle-class tax cuts!  My take-home for this month was up by more than $100 from last month.  Thanks Barack!  :icon_thumright:
 

dbw

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Sorry Max, you gotta pay taxes to get a tax break.  :icon_thumright:
 

NonsenseTele

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Here they changed the taxes a little too... As I don't follow very close my income I not sure if was because of it or if I had that small increase on payment, but this month I got a bigger payment than I was expecting :laughing7:
 
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I didn't know about the new tax break and my check was only $3 less, but I had left after lunch one day.  I was going to start working 37 hour weeks if the difference was only $3.  It all got explained to me nicely.
 

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well I don't pay tax, but I don't have a Job as of yet. Sometime in june or july I will though. Washing dishes, stacking shelves and working the grill at the cafe for $12.50 p/hr. But then I'll have to pay tax.
 

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Class warfare, Socialism, that's what it is. All tax break recipients should mail a check for their increased income directly to the nearest rich person, who clearly works harder than you do. Why else would they be rich? You think the Paris Hiltons of this world were just born rich, or something? You don't think Paul Allen deserves a break? His Seahawks totally sucked this year!
There was a hilarious article in the NY times a little while ago suggesting that the $500k salary limit proposed for banking bailout recipient CEOs was not enough money to live on in NYC, they were serious and broke the whole thing down in a budget. It's tough at the top, I guess.....
 

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A lot of the lower and middle class is well-armed too.

Actually scaring the rich into giving money BACK, and ramping DOWN their rapacious plans, is a strategy that hasn't been reached - not yet. In the genuine history of America (that you're not taught in high school) in the 1930's we were very close to armed revolution - millionaire Roosevelt didn't draw up the New Deal out of the kindness of his heart, but because he HAD to. The poor people were shooting back at union-busters, bank robbers were heroes because the bankers were villains... the Lindbergh baby (kidnapping rich people's babies for ransom) was not the isolated malfunction of a madman as portrayed by historical rewrites.

Among the cleverest of the manipulations of the elite's control of the networks has been the transformation of millionaires into heroes, and the message that "you can do it too!" (!) Donald Trump has defrauded the government and his investors by declaring bankruptcy - as a business strategy - THREE TIMES NOW - and he gets rewarded with his own TV show. The mansions and car collections lauded in the lifestyle shows are held up as achievements to keep the masses slaving away - umm, if you're not 6'6" you're not playing in the NBA... and though the rags-to-riches stories are worshipped among TV producers - gee, the networks keep buying them - social mobility in America is drastically declining.

Over-accumulation & concentration of wealth is the enemy of human potential, always has been, always will be. We ALL used to know this.

Could the American Revolution even have happened unless the poor people were armed too?

(Another very clever manipulation has been the pairings of Republicanism with guns, and leftism with peaceniks - only in America are the left the wimps - ummm, Castro, Guevara, Mao, Lenin, the French Revolution... so who's being played?)

Grrr. I get so mad sometimes - gee, what's on the tube tonight, somebody please amuse me..... :sad1:.
 

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So, I can glean from various comments throughout this thread that if one is rich, they automatically:

- didn't work for their money
- are inherently evil

Such a wide brush stroke for the richies... but that just all fits in with the looney conspiracy theories.

Funny thing is, if there weren't some rich people in this world, you wouldn't have your friggin' job.

And if you counter that with, "well, I don't need to work for anybody anyways; I'll work for myself", then you're just following
the same path many so-called "evil" rich people follow.

And in regards to the American Revolution comment - where in the history books does it state that the Americans who participated in the Rev. were "poor"?
 

dbw

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Huh?  *I* sure didn't say that... I was just stoked about my tax cut  :)
 

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Stubhead's point is that many are brainwashed into defending the rich at all costs even though it goes against their own economic interests. I think you just put an exclamation on it.

Paul Allen worked hard for his money, I'm sure. I'm sure he worked really hard. I'm just not sure he worked 87,000 times as hard. Rush is a multimillionaire - does he work harder than the Korean immigrants who run my local corner store 80 hours a week? They practically sleep there. Having Joe the Plumber defend Lebron James' income is really kind of twisted.

BTW, having any success at converting the liberals here, superL?  :icon_biggrin:
 

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tfarny said:
Stubhead's point is that many are brainwashed into defending the rich at all costs even though it goes against their own economic interests. I think you just put an exclamation on it.

Paul Allen worked hard for his money, I'm sure. I'm sure he worked really hard. I'm just not sure he worked 87,000 times as hard. Rush is a multimillionaire - does he work harder than the Korean immigrants who run my local corner store 80 hours a week? They practically sleep there. Having Joe the Plumber defend Lebron James' income is really kind of twisted.

BTW, having any success at converting the liberals here, superL?  :icon_biggrin:

Nothing stopping said Korean immigrants from starting up their own talk-radio show, now is there?

If Lebron James can make millions playing basketball, then more power to him.  If I can paint a sh!tty picture using
baby food, call it "art" and sell it for a million, then more power to me.  If you could write a book about all the evil greedy
rich people, get hooked up with a publisher and make millions off of sales, then more power to you.

Point in case: this is America.

Considering your sweeping statements about rich people here (which smacks of Class Envy), next thing we know you'll be spouting off about how redistribution of wealth is necessary, and perhaps more importantly in your own opinion, "fair".

You shouldn't hate rich people - they're paying your salary in some form or another.  And if you don't like your salary, why don't you
lace up those Chuck Taylors, hit the basketball court and practice, and go pro basketball a la James... or something?  The only
thing stopping you is you.

Converting?  I'm interjecting common sense and logic into discussions that are rife with ignorant statements based on wacky conspiracy theories, class envy and the like.
 

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dbw said:
Huh?  *I* sure didn't say that... I was just stoked about my tax cut  :)

You've become richer with your tax cut... might have to consider you an evil, greedy rich bastard now.  :toothy10:
 

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Everytime I play the lottery (like yesterday's 200+ million mega-millions) I always find it funny how people say first thing they're gonna do is  they're going on vacation, going to disneyworld, gonna buy a new house or whatever.

If I hit the lottery, first thing I'm doing is voting Republican...


2nd is buying every guitar and neck in the showcase. ;-)
 

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Max said:
Let's not take this thread away from where it was...

Yay tax cuts!

Max - why do you read these threads? Seems like you always jump in to tell everyone to cool it. :icon_scratch:

If I hit the lottery, first thing I'm doing is voting Republican...

reminds me of the old saying... there's only two kinds of rebuplicans: millionaires and idiots. :laughing7:
 
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