Mispositioned frets? (PICTURES!!!)

[Cederick]

Is it just me, or does it look like these frets are slightly mispositioned? A local swedish luther I have a ordered a guitar by sent some work in progress pics and I can't help but notice this every time I look at the pictures.

And if they really are misplaced, would it make a ton of difference? Of course straight frets are nothing like True Temprament no matter how much you try...

Looking at the picture, it looks like there's a bigger gap between frets #21-22 than between 20-21. That is weird, since I think there's always a bigger fap the further away from the headstock you get? :icon_scratch: :dontknow:

 

[Updown]

You said they are True Temparment Frets.  :tard:
So I suspect that it is correct.

I'm only going by this ..... http://www.truetemperament.com/site/index.php?go=1&sgo=1
Looking at the same frets as you stated.

Give him a call, just to check  :icon_thumright:

 

[Cederick]

No I never said the frets on my guitar order were True Temprament I just said that normal frets never intonate perfectly... Only that I don't care much for that, like the A power chord sounds a bit off every time.
Which makes me wonder if a mispositioned 21st fret would be a hell of a difference...

I have mailed and waiting for a reply. Of course I'm just checking with you guys since you can look at the pictures: the guy who's making this guitar can however use a ruler and look close  :icon_tongue:

 

[Cagey]

Looks wrong to me.

If you're lucky, it's only the one fret. But, it could be everything past that, or everything before it. In any event, it's a problem.

 

[Cederick]

Ok, so I'm not the only one who sees it. I hope the guy making it will notice it too... Especially when I have mailed and adressed the issue already.

 

[TonyFlyingSquirrel]

It sticks out like a sore thumb.  Quite obvious.

 

[Cederick]

Maybe I should cancel the order and hope to get my money back because I feel I cannot pay for something like that...

I will get a Warmoth instead, I can get basically every feature except a neck through construction, I can totally live with that.

 

[TonyFlyingSquirrel]

Maybe I should cancel the order and hope to get my money back because I feel I cannot pay for something like that... Get the thing for free YES SIR hahaha but not for any amount of money

Free or not, a neck that won't intonate is a neck that won't intonate.  If you plan on playing below the twelfth fret only, then be my guest, but I would personally return it, & order a Warmoth that you know has the highest quality control standards in the business.

 

[Cederick]

Yeah I know I have one Warmoth so far and it's definitely my favorite guitar.
I just wanted a neckthrough...
Ha!

Will be nearly the exact same build but a  Warmoth if I get my money back...

 

[Updown]

Sorry  :doh:  my bad,  I thought thats what you were after, Temparment frets on that neck you ordered.
Which the frets can be in different posies.

If that's just a normal neck / frets ..... then your better of getting a Warmoth  :icon_biggrin:

 

[Cederick]

Yeah I guess I am... Warmoth will be cheaper too ;P hehe

 

[swarfrat]

Regardless, that's not a true tempered neck, it's just two obviously misplaced fret slots. The true tempered neck frets look like they were installed by Salvador Dali.

I cannot for the life of me imagine anyone doing this as a living who would let that out the door. You can argue about finish dings, or grain not being as spectacular as promised. But fret slots cut so obviously out of place as to be visible - he should have never even installed the first fret on that piece of wood, yet he kept going. This guy gives amateurs a bad name - we probably have several dozen hobby builders on the board capable of better work.

 

[Cagey]

I agree. That's bizarre.

 

[Cederick]

Again, I never said it was anything like True Temprament why does people mistaking that???? :dontknow:

 

[bagman67]

I think folks are linking through to the builder's site, and seeing he has True Temperament necks on his other builds.  THen they conclude that maybe this is an example of that phenomenon -which on closer inspection, it is clearly not.

 

[Cederick]

HEhe yeah but he doesn't have that.

 

[swarfrat]

I think I was misunderstood.  I was merely supporting the previous statements "no, that is not true tempered".

 

[bagman67]

yep, I realize now that OP originally stated that it resembled but was not intended to be TT.


Yay for the internets and clarity of communication!

 

[stubhead]

Maybe that's how they start looking after you've installed a few too many "True" temperament frets..... :cool01:

http://www.truetemperament.com/site/index.php?go=0&sgo=0

Sigh... another geegaw to be tried, pimped, eventually discarded. Yes, legendary wealthy arms-dealer heir, guitar buyer, and notoriously horrible musician Henry Kaiser IV has five of them! Yes, John McLaughlin has one neck on one of his disposable, airline-fodder Godins... but his valued (and favored) new PRS has, like really straight frets...? The explanation is, of course, that guitar strings do distort at varying rates. That's why there are FIVE different "True=tempered" versions - one for the G-C-D cowboy-chorders, one for the E-minor metal guys.... oddly enough, the "true" neck designed for even-tempered-tuning - which is what Western music is played in - has almost straight frets:

http://www.truetemperament.com/site/index.php?go=1&sgo=3

Those offsets are merely the opposite of a compensated nut like the Earvana (and like those, become worse-than-bad if you happen to pop on a wound 3rd string because you feel like recording something in tune [yes I LOVE unwound 3rds; and I love my cat who hocks up hairballs whenever/wherever the mood strikes...]).

$795 for an unfinished Warmoth neck with frets that only work for your favorite key...  better nuke that cape, cowboy! EEEE EEEE EEEE I WANNA I WANNA.... maybe later. Didn't Peavey just fix this with their auto-tune guitar? Didn't Buzz Fetien... wait! I thought the, Evertune bridge...
http://www.evertune.com/home/

oh shucks. I'll never keep up.

 

[Cagey]

The power of suggestion is tremendous, especially for marketing weenies.