Initial Floyd Setup - Springs vs Strings (or Runnin' with the Level)

[swarfrat]

Speaking of plastic deformation. My first guitar was a knockoff strat with a knockoff Kahler my brother got me from the BX. Once, I don't recall specifically how this happened, but I wasn't happy with somethign or other it was doing and as I pulled or pushed or whatever I did to it - it started to get softer. And then it broke. Yup. I broke the trem arm.  The best scenario I can think of is that perhaps it was threaded and I overtwisted it. But I think it was actually a pull and not a twist.

As far as compliance, etc... floating means equilibrium.  If you got 110 lbs of tension on the springs, you need an equal torque (but it has a little longer lever arm thanks to the block length vs bridge height). 

 

[fdesalvo]

I have nothing positive to add to this discussion. I'm only here to cast my vote for best subject line.

Thank you! I was getting the sense that I was in Sammy Hagar hades for a minute there. 

 

[stratamania]

I have nothing positive to add to this discussion. I'm only here to cast my vote for best subject line.

Thank you! I was getting the sense that I was in Sammy Hagar hades for a minute there. 

Oh this thread is on fire...

 

[amigarobbo]

Forget the tonewood debate and whether a tremolo claw should be angled or straight.  It's how many springs reach equilibrium and return to zero.  ccasion14:

I'm not sure but I think Hookes law says that it dosn't matter how many springs are in the back, they will be equilibrium with the string tention, as long as the level of stretch on the springs is linear-elastic, c'mon guys don't make me get the whiteboards out!


:evil4:

 

[amigarobbo]

I've just had a look at the math(s) and it's bringing back the terrors of Simple Harmonic Motion, and other assorted maths horrors disguised as physics,  :turtle: I'm already baling out of this...

 

[TBurst Std]

Something I do is make sure the distance between the spring coils is the same for all springs.  (measure tuned with feeler gauges and adjust claw tilt to adjust the gaps in spring coils).  You don't want the springs fully collapsed on your full upward movement either, so check that as well. I find this keeps everything much more settled. The premise is: if we presume the springs have similar properties, we have insured they always have an affect, and an equal one at that the best we can against the different tensions along the bridge (different tuned string tensions).

 

[BigSteve22]

Dudes, this is why I like hardtails!  :icon_jokercolor:

 

[bbl4ck]

Dudes, this is why I like hardtails!  :icon_jokercolor:

X 1000
I am right there with ya' on that one Big Steve  :headbang1:

 

[stratamania]

Forget the tonewood debate and whether a tremolo claw should be angled or straight.  It's how many springs reach equilibrium and return to zero.  ccasion14:

I'm not sure but I think Hookes law says that it dosn't matter how many springs are in the back, they will be equilibrium with the string tention, as long as the level of stretch on the springs is linear-elastic, c'mon guys don't make me get the whiteboards out!


:evil4:

Just my dry humour at work in this case.