Humbucking guitars through Fender Amps

[jerryjg]

Puh-leeeees! Just...Say... NO!
Look, I hate to say this, but I cringe whenever i see a picture of someone playing a Les Paul through a Fender.;
No...No, No..NO!!!!
Marshalls are for Humbuclkers., Fenders are for single coils.
Thats just a fact of life, that if you aint  hip to, you just and hip too.

Disclaimer- Semi- Hollow Gibsons, Tweed and Blackface Bassman  Fenders are exempt from this.

 

[mayfly]

Blackface Bassmans have similar circuits to all the blackface line - from the deluxe on up.

I was going to play a humbucker guitar through a fender just to spite you - but I realized that I didn't have one!  :icon_thumright:

 

[jerryjg]

Blackface Bassmans have similar circuits to all the blackface line - from the deluxe on up.

I was going to play a humbucker guitar through a fender just to spite you - but I realized that I didn't have one!  :icon_thumright:

Bassman gets a ruanchier more Marshalesque sound. Thats why they even have mods to make them more JTM_45'ish.
The Deluxe blackface you are correct about, and  laso the Bandmaster is very similar  similar to the Bassman, but on the higher wattage Fender blackface amps, and and more to the point, the Super Reverb and Concert ands Vibrolux, they are way "bluesier" with a clean style tone untill pushed pretty loud, and themn the breakup is not  particularly  that hard edged "Marshally" sound , but very Warm Growly and  Fenderesque . The Twin? Fuhgeddabout it. It will break up, but mosyt people don;t look for that. its too loud.

 

[Mor Paul]

You do know the iconic Marshall was a Bassman copy, right?

Actually, I'm looking to grab a fender sometime for my tele. Did I mention it has a humbucker?

 

[jerryjg]

You do know the iconic Marshall was a Bassman copy, right?

Actually, I'm looking to grab a fender sometime for my tele. Did I mention it has a humbucker?

How could I know everthing I posted before you and not know that the Leos original design were from RCA radio circuits, and that the original  Marshall  JTM's were  copied from the Bassman design? Look , I may be a drunk fool , but that doesn't mean I'm an idiot. I wish you people would get that straight!
Anyway , as far as getting the Fender for your humbucking Tele. I think you know already where I stand on that. Don't!
Max,  and other young guys on the forum...you  all are  the youngest witnesses to the very greatest original  legends. You experienced them still alive here. That makes you one of the last forebears of our great legacy. Thats a very special testimony  indeed. One day, hopefully when we're all gone someday you can tell your grandkids that you remember being around when Les Paul, Leo Fender, and Jim Marshall were still alive!

BY the Way,  NOW the last living Legend from the Golden Age of Guitars is Father Marshall. When he goes, its all done.

 

[Tonar8352]

I do not usually jump into threads like this but I can’t help myself. I strongly disagree.  My Lester sounds great through every one of these except the Champ.  And my 59 ES350T with real PAF's is amazing out of all of them.  

Just my opinion. By the way notice the Marshall cabinet with no head; I use it as a table now.  I stopped using it once I heard my Les Paul through Vintage Fender Amps.

I think Derek Trucks sounds excellent  through a Super Reverb.
Billy Gibbons loves old tweeds.
Peter Green; amazing tone with a Lester through Fenders and Marshalls.
Early Santana with a Les Paul through a Twin.
Terrible Ted through a wall of Twins.
The Stones.

On and On

 

[dbw]

WHaaat?? As usual jerry, you make no sense.

Fender + Les Paul works beautifully.  When you play a nice guitar through a nice amp, it sounds nice.  They don't care about the brand names on each other.  :icon_scratch:

You do know the iconic Marshall was a Bassman copy, right?

Actually, I'm looking to grab a fender sometime for my tele. Did I mention it has a humbucker?

How could I know everthing I posted before you and not know that the Leos original design were from RCA radio circuits, and that the original  Marshall  JTM's were  copied from the Bassman design? Look , I may be a drunk fool , but that doesn't mean I'm an idiot. I wish you people would get that straight!
Anyway , as far as getting the Fender for your humbucking Tele. I think you know already where I stand on that. Don't!
Max,  and other young guys on the forum...you  all are  the youngest witnesses to the very greatest original  legends. You experienced them still alive here. That makes you one of the last forebears of our great legacy. Thats a very special testimony  indeed. One day, hopefully when we're all gone someday you can tell your grandkids that you remember being around when Les Paul, Leo Fender, and Jim Marshall were still alive!

BY the Way,  NOW the last living Legend from the Golden Age of Guitars is Father Marshall. When he goes, its all done.

If my calculations are correct, Max was born after Leo Fender died.

Edit: Therefore, Max is probably the reincarnation of Leo Fender.  Max, do you by any chance ever feel a strong urge to cover things in tweed?

 

[Mor Paul]

Edit: Therefore, Max is probably the reincarnation of Leo Fender.  Max, do you by any chance ever feel a strong urge to cover things in tweed?

Only my socks, suits, pets, family, food, and toilet paper. Why?

 

[callaway]

People, please don't listen to jerrjg. Just use your ears. I have heard some great sounds coming out of humbucker-equipped guitars through Fender amps. I love to play my tele (humbucker in the neck, but then again it is a thinline, so does this violate the "rule" or not?) through a blackface Twin. I've even ordered stuff to build a '65 Princeton Reverb, which I will play my tele almost exclusively (it's just the perfect guitar for me).

Perhaps this notion came from hearing a crappy Les Paul  through a Fender (and I've read stuff claiming that the percentage of Crappy Les Pauls that have come out of Gibson for several decades is as high as 50 to 80%, making this very likely to be the case). Naturally, a bad Les Paul sounds bad. It's just that if you play it through a Marshall with the gain cranked, you probably wouldn't hear the difference. Play that same Les Paul on a clean Marshall (or a clean Vox or a clean Roland JC) and I guarantee you it sounds bad there as well.

Anyway, I'm not sure what prompted this post... but just use your ears, people.

 

[Mor Paul]

Anyway, I'm not sure what prompted this post... but just use your ears, people.

Might come in packs of 6

 

[Justinginn]

There's something special about a Les Paul and a Marshall stack, but I think that's more about them being iconic together than anything else. Everything sounds good through a good Fender.  ccasion14:

 

[bbl4ck]

Anyway, I'm not sure what prompted this post... but just use your ears, people.

Might come in packs of 6

I think you are dead on with that pack of 6 theory...
:icon_thumright: :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright:

 

[Superlizard]

You've got a legitimate point, but sometimes there's an exception.

For example, this:

or this:

Sound phenomenal through this ('67 Fender Blackface Deluxe) & a stomp box:

 

[dbw]

SL, I don't think he does have a legitimate point.  Those aren't exceptions, they're good examples  :headbang1:

 

[Tonar8352]

There sure are a lot of Fender Amps on that stage.  It sounded so good it turned one guy upside down.  :laughing7: :laughing7:
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smRXnyUWktg[/youtube]

 

[jerryjg]

^ Bah..white boys can't play blues nohow.

 

[bbl4ck]

^ Bah..white boys can't play blues nohow.

Yea, I noticed that the crowd didn't really seem to be diggin' it at all...  :doh:

 

[dbw]

Wow that guy's solo rocks... too bad about the rest of the song :doh:

 

[Vol. Knob]

Hogwash, poppycock, nonsense, and absurd.

I won't dignify this thread with a response...  after this one....  :icon_tongue:  plbtbtbtbtbtb!

 

[yyz2112]

Hate to dig up this thread, should let it die a deserving death. BUT...
Didn't Steve Howe-one of my favorite players, btw-play through Fender amps at one time. His sound sure sucked huh? Alex Lifeson, another of my favorites certainly did, and he's most always been a Gibson/humbucker guy (live anyway).
I'm sure this has been said a million times here, but if it sounds good, it is good.