Help me Obiwon Kinobee your my only hope!-String spacing blunder?

[Noodler]

Okey dokey, I just finished putting my parts all together. Have a Warmoth vintage modern fatback neck with 1 11/16 string spacing. Body is a Warmoth Strat style with the Warmoth Gotoh vintage 6 hole trem. High e string is fabulous but my low E string starts ok but ends up hanging off the fret board by about the 12th fret.

Apparently the nut and bridge are not compatible? What can remedy this? Is there a different bridge which will fit and make this work? :tard:

 

[TonyFlyingSquirrel]

Email sales@warmoth.com.

You'll get the most direct/applicable counsel in relation to your build.

 

[Noodler]

Thank you sir will do.

 

[JaySwear]

Have any pictures? Very strange... And yes, email Warmoth too!

 

[Noodler]

Here are some pics

 

[TroubledTreble]

Cool looking guitar!

I have the same type neck and run the vintage fender bridge which is wide. I don't experience any issues. I have had the issue like your due to the string not sitting on the saddle correctly. I just nudge it into place. From the pic and what I can see (fuzzy) it looks like you could nudge the string over a bit. Also make sure the saddle is set flat and not leaning.

Can you set your cam for macro and get another shot?

 

[Noodler]

I am not sure of what "macro" on the camera means? Do you mean a full guitar pic?

 

[AutoBat]

Your neck may need reseated as well.  Unscrew, adjust, rescrew.

 

[Noodler]

I can make the string line up ok by moving it all the way toward the inside but to do that it literally has to sit directly over the inside saddle height adjustment screw. The neck itself fits in the pocket right now perfectly like a glove, with out removing body wood I can't move it.

 

[Noodler]

I unscrewed the neck and tried to adjust......no joy.

 

[TroubledTreble]

Macro for camera mean the focus will adapt for a closer pic. It's a setting on the camera, usually noted by a flower.

Hmmm.. it did seem off more than mine would have been. I thought about the neck alignment but seems odd for a  W neck.

I don't know that much about that bridge. Does it float at all from side to side? Could it be slightly mis aligned? Outside of something very strange the solution should be fairly simple.  :icon_scratch:

Maybe a pic of the nut too..

 

[Noodler]

Here is a close up of the bridge/offending string pushed over to where it lines up ok on the fret board. I also do have a white switch tip lying about somewhere. I also knew 57 classics pole pieces would not line up but my other strats sound fine this way so that isn't my trouble.

Just no way to make a groove directly over the adjustment screw to hold the string there, it is way off for some reason.

 

[Noodler]

Better quality pic( this is how far over the string has to be on the saddle to sit ok on the neck)

 

[JaySwear]

Only thing I can think is that the holes in the neck end weren't drilled properly, making the neck sit at an angle. That would be really unusual for Warmoth though.

 

[Noodler]

Thank you all for the help. I have called and e-mailed Warmoth. Sales MGR supposed to get back to me they say.

For fun here is a pic of my first guit an 82 Smith strat I bought new and a 60's closet classic cust shop strat and the warmoth for your enjoyment

 

[TroubledTreble]

Based on the full length pic and the high E, I would say the guitar and neck are fine. It looks like the bridge is the issue.

Possibility: The bridge is out of spec. Perhaps each saddle is slightly wider than it should be. You can check the string spacing. Overall is should be 2 7/32 or 56.3mm wide. If it's wider than that then the bridge is the issue. My bridge had 57mm spacing and all is fine. My guess here is that the bridge saddles are slightly wider than they should be and the low E is getting shoved over.

EDIT* Does it look like the saddles are "fanning" at all? I looked again and I can't say it does. There has to be something amiss.

 

[Noodler]

Okay gentleman, I slighly filed the neck pocket and scootched the neck over a hair. I strung it fully and it seems this mostly fixed the trouble. However, the high e, and the low e still have to be shoved way to the inward side of their respective saddles. I guess I am just going to live with it after all I knew this wasn't a "kit". So I intonated it up and the neck plays well the SS 6100's are nice and the fatback is great for hand fatigue. My better half now demands I give her some conversation time. I will post tomorrow after I can mess around with it again.

Thank you all! Now where's my dang sticker?!!!

 

[pabloman]

Callaham makes a bridge to solve this issue.

 

[Noodler]

After further review, the bridge spacing is just too wide for the neck. It just isn't going to work. I have done all I can to "improve things". The Callaham bridge is fairly spendy. Any other thoughts? If I have to I will drop $ 165 for one but that seems pretty steep.

 

[dudesweet157]

The bridge Callaham makes is a drop-in replacement for the  Mexican/import Strat bridge.  The mounting hole spacing is not the same as the USA vintage Strat tremolo, so unfortunately, that option won't work.

.  It's weird that your low E is the one slipping off.  Usually its the high E when using vibrato.  What you might could do is have your nut cut with slightly narrower spacing.  That's what my tech does to fix the issue with high Es.  I would also double check your neck pocket fit.  even if its out of alignment by a degree or two that could account for the problem you're having.