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Gibson tosses around its weight

The Aaron said:

Well, that was uncomfortable to watch.He seemed very emotional, almost frothing at the mouth. Not a good way to present his message. I’m frankly exhausted of every aspect of everything we see being driven by some marketing department somewhere, and his whole spiel about TV producers taping over a Gibson logo to avoid getting in legal trouble with Gibson (and his side-long comment that it isn’t enough anyway) kind of turned my stomach. The whole thing came off as a petulant tantrum. Not attractive.
 
-VB- said:
... The whole thing came off as a petulant tantrum. Not attractive.

My thoughts exactly. If a company needs to address something, they should focus on the positive stuff and completely omit the negative stuff.
And more importantly - use some MUSIC while doing it. Especially when the company in question is a music company.

 
A little math and it came to not as many guitars as one might think.

Talk about fuzzy math! Just how many guitars are you talking about?
Your lack of specifics keeps me from believing your posts.
 
-VB- said:
taping over a Gibson logo to avoid getting in legal trouble with Gibson

Maybe that was just an attempt to improve tuning stability? 😂
 
Maybe they just wanted some fodder to create massive internet flame wars that ultimately result in more attention for the brand. That seems to be a pretty effective form of marketing these days. Any press is good press, etc...

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Maybe they should have started trademarking this stuff 55 years ago.
Would have at least given them some sense of traction and legal precedent rather that reacting so late in the game.
 
stratamania said:
I want a Goldtop and 335.

I got a gold top classic with P-90's last year for some super low price because it was December and it was a "2018" model. I definitely recommend.

 
To me, the whole thing came off as a steaming cup of smug, with a healthy dollop of smirk.

Aside from the whole "boutique buildarrs - yee bee warrrned!" shtick, there was also the part about tv shows putting tape over the logos. He acted like Gibson would be doing them a favor by "working with them" to let them use G products in their programming. In reality, it's the other way around. It's not really news anymore: there is an entire industry built around manufacturers getting their products into programming, from wedding rings and t-shirts to cars and cruises.

I can tell you for certain that it is not cheap for a jewelry manufacturer to get one of their designs on the finger of an actress. Depending on the level of placement, it likely cost them thousands of dollars or more. You have to register your product with a Hollywood agent, who will then review scripts and work with producers to find a placement, at a price you can afford. Likewise, all the jewelry and clothing you see on people at the Oscars was placed there by agents, and by brands that paid fat stacks for the privilege.

Producers aren't taping over the logos to keep from infringing on G's trademarks. They tape over them because they aren't about to give G any publicity without G going through the placement process and coughing up some dough.

When it's a live production, which is often the case with bands, it is way too late to "work with Gibson". When some band shows up to play on Ellen, the producers don't have time to say "we are filming in one hour...but wait....the guitar player has an SG....someone call up Gibson right away!" Those decisions are made far in advance, by agents who specialize in it and have been working behind the scenes to get those placements.

So out comes the tape.

In cases like American Idol, where there is a house band every week, a lot of those guitars have been placed, by mfgr's who played the game correctly. The PRSi and Taylors I have seen on AI come to mind.

In the past, you saw musical instrument brands on shows a lot more often. These days, as people move more and more towards streaming content with no commercials, product placement screen time is becoming more valuable than ever.

So out comes the tape.
 
Of course, Warmoth saw all this coming decades ago:


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When no logo is your logo, none can defeat.


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I know a couple people who do streaming video and are considered "influencers" and it's amazing the money/products/services/etc. they're offered to "place"/ /mention/discuss products or vendors in the broadcast. Advertising is big business.
 
Cagey said:
I know a couple people who do streaming video and are considered "influencers" and it's amazing the money/products/services/etc. they're offered to "place"/ /mention/discuss products or vendors in the broadcast. Advertising is big business.


In the grand scheme of things our little Warmoth YouTube channel is nothing. Our best videos only have about 120k views.


And even I have been approached by companies to place things in our videos. So far the answer has always been no, but if Ferrari ever calls....
 
swarfrat said:
Now the reddit link is down. Any guesses why? :icon_biggrin:

I found it worked when you went via that link on Facebook on an iPad, but not on a computer, some people have said it works on Chrome.

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