For those of us who don't quite understand how tubes amps work

[hannaugh]

I didn't fully comprehend until I saw these videos, so I thought I'd post them for others who might find them useful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM3av6moJd4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY_w6H40ECs&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJrjSg4o6J8&feature=related

 

[Volitions Advocate]

oh THATS why they call them valves.  Makes a lot of sense.

You know it's interesting to see just how many different things are analogus with respect to sound.  This just seems like a no-brainer now that I've been learning what I have about digital technology, listening to what he was saying I was able to jump to the next conclusion before he said it.  Very good find Hannaugh.

I need to take some electrical engineering courses.

 

[hannaugh]

Seriously, I read it a bunch of times in other places, but it only completely made sense to me until he compared it to water... and with a fun accent as well!

 

[stubhead]

Electricity is a lot like water - only weirder... I started to understand guitar wiring (a little)  when I could think of electricity as being something that started somewhere, went somewhere, and had stuff done to it - there are back-eddies, choke points, faucet valves.... only weirder. :toothy12:

 

[nexrex]

this guy is bloody brilliant. Never heard this explained in such a logical manner

 

[dmraco]

Thanks....very cool

 

[exaN]

Coming from a guy that has very little knowledge about electricity, that was pretty damn simple to understand.

 

[-CB-]

The water concept is how it was always taught, actually.... you just have to be an old fart to have learned it that way.  Today, its not taught at all.

 

[Wana_make_a_guitar]

The water concept is how it was always taught, actually.... you just have to be an old fart to have learned it that way.  Today, its not taught at all.

Which sucks.  The most my class have learned yet do do with electricity and electronics (10th grade) is ohms law.  whooohoo

 

[exaN]

The water concept is how it was always taught, actually.... you just have to be an old fart to have learned it that way.  Today, its not taught at all.

Which sucks.  The most my class have learned yet do do with electricity and electronics (10th grade) is ohms law.   whooohoo

Yup, that's why I am a total noob in that subject now, THANKS SCHOOL!

 

[hannaugh]

The water concept is how it was always taught, actually.... you just have to be an old fart to have learned it that way.  Today, its not taught at all.

I don't know why, but for some reason math and science teaching methods that worked really well have been abandoned by public schools for absolutely no reason.  My high school had these awful new-agey math books that I got almost nothing out of.  I had to take math during the summer because that's when they cracked out the old books, and that's when I actually understood.  Stupid California... I don't need my math to be politically correct, I just need to to make sense!

 

[exaN]

The water concept is how it was always taught, actually.... you just have to be an old fart to have learned it that way.  Today, its not taught at all.

I don't know why, but for some reason math and science teaching methods that worked really well have been abandoned by public schools for absolutely no reason.  My high school had these awful new-agey math books that I got almost nothing out of.  I had to take math during the summer because that's when they cracked out the old books, and that's when I actually understood.  Stupid California... I don't need my math to be politically correct, I just need to to make sense!

I went through all the strongest classes I could in high school... then I studied arts in college :doh:

 

[erogenousjones17]

The water concept is how it was always taught, actually.... you just have to be an old fart to have learned it that way.  Today, its not taught at all.

I don't know why, but for some reason math and science teaching methods that worked really well have been abandoned by public schools for absolutely no reason.  My high school had these awful new-agey math books that I got almost nothing out of.  I had to take math during the summer because that's when they cracked out the old books, and that's when I actually understood.  Stupid California... I don't need my math to be politically correct, I just need to to make sense!

Stupid California indeed! A few years back, the Quebec Government adopted a new education reform based on a fluffy, new-agey curriculum first proposed in California. It failed miserably on the west coast, but they decided to bring it here anyway (further proof of the infinite wisdom of elected officials). I've seen what kids learn here now, and -- cue ornery old fart voice -- damned if I understand a lick of it.

 

[hannaugh]

I doubt the kids understand it either.  I know I didn't.  The books encouraged kids to "discover the answers" instead of having a teacher just explain how to do the problems.  I guess if you're fascinated by math, that could work.  But for kids like me, who had no interest in it whatsoever, it resulted in never really learning anything and being frustrated and confused for three years.

 

[Volitions Advocate]

I don't know why, but for some reason math and science teaching methods that worked really well have been abandoned by public schools for absolutely no reason.  My high school had these awful new-agey math books that I got almost nothing out of.  I had to take math during the summer because that's when they cracked out the old books, and that's when I actually understood.  Stupid California... I don't need my math to be politically correct, I just need to to make sense!

Did you know that in the 30s in Germany most textbooks were burned and the kids were taught "Nazi Science" to indoctrinate them ?  The 'science' had no basis in scientific fact, it was just a bunch of propaganda made up to teach people that the way the rest of the world thought was wrong.  Food for thought *nod*

 

[-CB-]

The water concept is how it was always taught, actually.... you just have to be an old fart to have learned it that way.  Today, its not taught at all.

I don't know why, but for some reason math and science teaching methods that worked really well have been abandoned by public schools for absolutely no reason.  My high school had these awful new-agey math books that I got almost nothing out of.  I had to take math during the summer because that's when they cracked out the old books, and that's when I actually understood.  Stupid California... I don't need my math to be politically correct, I just need to to make sense!

I went through all the strongest classes I could in high school... then I studied arts in college :doh:

smart thing to do

 

[erogenousjones17]

I did the same thing. Advanced math and science, did science in cegep (a thing in quebec that comes between high school and college), then promptly switched to languages come university. I figure that way I got all my bases covered.

 

[exaN]

The water concept is how it was always taught, actually.... you just have to be an old fart to have learned it that way.  Today, its not taught at all.

I don't know why, but for some reason math and science teaching methods that worked really well have been abandoned by public schools for absolutely no reason.  My high school had these awful new-agey math books that I got almost nothing out of.  I had to take math during the summer because that's when they cracked out the old books, and that's when I actually understood.  Stupid California... I don't need my math to be politically correct, I just need to to make sense!

I went through all the strongest classes I could in high school... then I studied arts in college :doh:

smart thing to do

Yes, but more studying = less time playing music :sad1:

 

[Cagey]

The water concept is how it was always taught, actually.... you just have to be an old fart to have learned it that way.  Today, its not taught at all.

Which sucks.  The most my class have learned yet do do with electricity and electronics (10th grade) is ohms law.   whooohoo

Ohm's Law isn't very sexy or exciting, and on the surface doesn't seem to answer much, but it's the foundation on which nearly everything else rests. To dismiss it as boring or inconsequential is akin to dismissing the alphabet because what you're really interested in is reading. You need to know Ohm's law like the back of your hand, and be able to apply it to any circuit you encounter or wish to design. Once you have that, and are forced to play with resistor matrixes for a while, everything afterward will seem like puppy chow. Capacitors, inductors, transistors, tubes, etc. all just need a bit of explanation, and you're there.

 

[Wana_make_a_guitar]

The water concept is how it was always taught, actually.... you just have to be an old fart to have learned it that way.  Today, its not taught at all.

Which sucks.  The most my class have learned yet do do with electricity and electronics (10th grade) is ohms law.   whooohoo

Ohm's Law isn't very sexy or exciting, and on the surface doesn't seem to answer much, but it's the foundation on which nearly everything else rests. To dismiss it as boring or inconsequential is akin to dismissing the alphabet because what you're really interested in is reading. You need to know Ohm's law like the back of your hand, and be able to apply it to any circuit you encounter or wish to design. Once you have that, and are forced to play with resistor matrixes for a while, everything afterward will seem like puppy chow. Capacitors, inductors, transistors, tubes, etc. all just need a bit of explanation, and you're there.

It's not that ohm's law is boring or inconsequential, it's just that that's all we've been taught. There hasn't been anything to follow it up with or any experiments to test it on. Just, here it is.....let's move on. The only way we get to use it is if we do an advances science course in 11th grade which only focuses on the subject for about a 2 weeks.