Death to all but metal (uhm... apple!)

[AndyG]

I'll have to agree with Orf on this, and personally will never own anything apple...Seen my wife go thru 2 ipods and an iphone, they were all junk.. I've always used pc's and will continue to, some people bitch about pc's being to proprietary and prone to viruses. True, but apple is even more proprietary than any brand of pc, and any good virus program will keep your pc just as safe as a mac. And someone said pc's are junk after 3 years....Ha....I have 2 HP laptops and an HP desktop all over 5 yrs old running XP and running strong. The machine I'm using to type this post is the desk top, and it's still just as smoking fast and relyable as the day I bought it..

And my wife just bought a brand new desk top HP the other day with W7, pretty kick ass I must say..... :icon_biggrin:
My name is DangerousR6, and I'm a PC....... :laughing7:

+1
My Studio PC is about 4 years old now ... ASUS motherboard and a P4 processor.  Still runs solid as a rock on XP.  As soon as Digidesign releases a ProTools update, I'm probably going to update to Windows 7.
My office PC is about 6 years old now, P3, and a cheap ASrock motherboard.  Probably build something new to upgrade, since that computer has seen a LOT of milage.
Still can't see myself EVER fronting the $$$ for a Mac.

 

[erogenousjones17]

I am a superfan of archos' hardware-stuff, I never cared much for creative (zen). Archos is a european company, and that helps a lot for me (bit chauvenistic I guess). I use a Eee PC netbook with xp home edition, and it works like a charm, never had problems with it. well, nothing worth mentioning. I really dig windows nowadays, cause now I understand it better than I used to. but at least windows is better than linux. i really can not stand linux...

Linux is not for everyone. I really like it. Installing it now on a virtual machine, actually. It was really quick when I tried it alone. And if you are just getting Windows, you may never reach Linux's potential. It's great if you want to save money for guitar stuff

I've got to use it at the university, but I just don't like it. its for me too clumsy, not direct enough. I don't want to mess around in software, I just want it to work

This is exactly how I feel about Linux too.

 

[bbl4ck]

I have been a PC user for about 12 years.  I think I have gone through 3 desktops and 3 laptops in that time.
I still have a laptop PC, but just bought an Mac ~9 months ago. 
I have my laptop on a docking station running side-by-side with my Mac.
I must say I love my Mac heads and heals above my PC.
I often use them both at the same time, but my favorite has become my Mac.
Also, I have had an Ipod for 3 years and never had a problem .
Hey, what ever floats your boat...
:rock-on:

 

[Alfang]

I've been on windows 7 for over a year now, love it, no problems.

I learned to hate Apple or mac whatever, right after I bought my Ipod and the only way to use it was through I-Tunes, That was a pisser, then I found Win-Amp, now no more I-tunes and the I-Pod works as it should have in the first place.

 

[Mor Paul]

Maybe I'm crazy...
No, I'm crazy all right.

But I'd like multiple connected machines, each running different OS's.

 

[jackthehack]

Maybe I'm crazy...
No, I'm crazy all right.

But I'd like multiple connected machines, each running different OS's.

Simpler to do multiple partitions/HDs to boot multiple OSes from the same system. I have to maintain all flavors of M$-Windoze + MacOS + Linux to test hardware/device drivers/software compatibility.

Personally, I never give Steve Jobs a 2x-3x markup on the same Intel hardware, and if I wanted MacOS I'd go Hackintosh.

Pretty much all mainstream recording software is either Windows or MacOS based; feature-wise there's a par there between software like ProTools or any from Cakewalk; running such on a Mac is probably overall a bit less of a hassle as the hardware is always completely consistant and you need to be fairly technical to even fathom all the PC-Windows compatibility information for any DigiDesign's hardware or software.

Not to start a war as this thread could easily do; hardware/operating systems are merely tools.

 

[Mor Paul]

Maybe I'm crazy...
No, I'm crazy all right.

But I'd like multiple connected machines, each running different OS's.

Simpler to do multiple partitions/HDs to boot multiple OSes from the same system. I have to maintain all flavors of M$-Windoze + MacOS + Linux to test hardware/device drivers/software compatibility.

Personally, I never give Steve Jobs a 2x-3x markup on the same Intel hardware, and if I wanted MacOS I'd go Hackintosh.

Pretty much all mainstream recording software is either Windows or MacOS based; feature-wise there's a par there between software like ProTools or any from Cakewalk; running such on a Mac is probably overall a bit less of a hassle as the hardware is always completely consistant and you need to be fairly technical to even fathom all the PC-Windows compatibility information for any DigiDesign's hardware or software.

Not to start a war as this thread could easily do; hardware/operating systems are merely tools.

The multiple partitions has been considered, and I used to have dual boot ubuntu/MS XP, but I'm too much into having tons of things going at once, and I'm very comfortable with multiple computers. Ideally, a live file sharing folder would be used, or even better, complete access to the other hard drives while they were in use by different OS's. As long as people who aren't tech-savvy keep away.

 

[mayfly]

I find it funny how many of us warmoth nerds are also computer nerds  :icon_thumright:

 

[jackthehack]

I find it funny how many of us warmoth nerds are also computer nerds  :icon_thumright:

Not really; "nerds"/engineers tend to be into DIY in general, why not guitars as well? Makes sense if you think about it....

 

[Mor Paul]

We're on a forum. That's not exactly chick-magnet material.

 

[Orpheo]

Maybe I'm crazy...
No, I'm crazy all right.

But I'd like multiple connected machines, each running different OS's.

Simpler to do multiple partitions/HDs to boot multiple OSes from the same system. I have to maintain all flavors of M$-Windoze + MacOS + Linux to test hardware/device drivers/software compatibility.

Personally, I never give Steve Jobs a 2x-3x markup on the same Intel hardware, and if I wanted MacOS I'd go Hackintosh.

Pretty much all mainstream recording software is either Windows or MacOS based; feature-wise there's a par there between software like ProTools or any from Cakewalk; running such on a Mac is probably overall a bit less of a hassle as the hardware is always completely consistant and you need to be fairly technical to even fathom all the PC-Windows compatibility information for any DigiDesign's hardware or software.

Not to start a war as this thread could easily do; hardware/operating systems are merely tools.

The multiple partitions has been considered, and I used to have dual boot ubuntu/MS XP, but I'm too much into having tons of things going at once, and I'm very comfortable with multiple computers. Ideally, a live file sharing folder would be used, or even better, complete access to the other hard drives while they were in use by different OS's. As long as people who aren't tech-savvy keep away.

and even more preferably: by some wireless protocol

 

[Mor Paul]

Maybe I'm crazy...
No, I'm crazy all right.

But I'd like multiple connected machines, each running different OS's.

Simpler to do multiple partitions/HDs to boot multiple OSes from the same system. I have to maintain all flavors of M$-Windoze + MacOS + Linux to test hardware/device drivers/software compatibility.

Personally, I never give Steve Jobs a 2x-3x markup on the same Intel hardware, and if I wanted MacOS I'd go Hackintosh.

Pretty much all mainstream recording software is either Windows or MacOS based; feature-wise there's a par there between software like ProTools or any from Cakewalk; running such on a Mac is probably overall a bit less of a hassle as the hardware is always completely consistant and you need to be fairly technical to even fathom all the PC-Windows compatibility information for any DigiDesign's hardware or software.

Not to start a war as this thread could easily do; hardware/operating systems are merely tools.

The multiple partitions has been considered, and I used to have dual boot ubuntu/MS XP, but I'm too much into having tons of things going at once, and I'm very comfortable with multiple computers. Ideally, a live file sharing folder would be used, or even better, complete access to the other hard drives while they were in use by different OS's. As long as people who aren't tech-savvy keep away.

and even more preferably: by some wireless protocol

Only problem with that is the speed. That could be a backup system, but I'd prefer a nice high-speed wired system.

 

[Steve_Karl]

Only problem with that is the speed. That could be a backup system, but I'd prefer a nice high-speed wired system.

I head ya there.
In my mind wireless is only for when it can't possibly be wired. I've drilled holes through the floors of closets that come out in the ceilings of the closets
below to get from the 3rd floor to the first floor with CAT5 cable.

I'm into running multiple machines also.
My studio network is typically 4 PCs running at the same time. 1 main workstation that runs Sonar 4.0.2 and 3 other PCs that run Giga Studio and also
Forte' Ensemble ( which is a VSTi host )

There are 3 other PCs in the house so the home network here can be up to 7 PCs at times. All are running XP pro or home.
Only 2 of them are "company" machines ( Dell ... one was given to me and the other, a laptop I got on eBay ) ... the others are custom builds by me,
a few of the best of them from eBay parts.
I can boot every machine in the house using .bat files and can access the desktop of any of them using pcAnywhere.
All hard drives in the house are shared and I backup all data to other places on the network also using .bat files.
I also do video work and use all PCs in the house as a rendering farm if I have to render something from Blender or Vegas.

For me it's all about bang for the buck and the ability to manage problems if and when they arise, and manage them in a cost effective way.

If some one gave me a brand new MAC, the most powerful one available, I'd not even open the box. I'd sell it and with the money I got
I'd buy parts for an other great PC and have enough money left over for an other Warmoth guitar project and probably some extra.

I kind of look at it like why spend more than $3000.00 on a Gibson Les Paul when I could build one exactly to my specs for less than 1/2 that cost.
It might not look as pretty ( probably because I'd be doing the finish ) but I'd still be a happy camper with the custom build.

Same with an iPod. If some one gave me one I'd sell it keep using or get an other iRiver ( the original "i" idea ) because iRiver players are seen as
external USB drives by a PC, and I can drag'n'drop my mp3s ( folders and sub folders ) to and from without being forced to use iTunes and QuickTime.

I have nothing against MACs of MAC users. I just can't justify the price or the "user friendly" myth.
I ( "I" meaning it's only my point of view ) find them confusing and limiting compared to a Windows PC.

 

[Mor Paul]

Do you have any issues running Blender on any systems? It doesn't run well on my laptop with XP, but it runs perfectly in the same machine with ubuntu.

 

[Steve_Karl]

Do you have any issues running Blender on any systems? It doesn't run well on my laptop with XP, but it runs perfectly in the same machine with ubuntu.

...generally no performance issues with 2.48 unless I get a huge animation project going and then it'll start to bog down if I have to many objects
showing when I'm trying to work. Sometimes I have to go into wire frame mode just to avoid gummy response, but this would be on a very large project.
I'm also running older ati video cards so that doesn't help. 
It only runs very moderately well on my laptop. The video on the laptop isn't strong enough to run any large projects smoothly.
My rendering is never a problem. I render individual .tga frames and sometimes get 4 machines each doing a quarter of the frams
and that helps alot.

I suspect it's going to be stronger on a Linux system. I've not tried Blender in Ubuntu although I'd really like to sometime.

If you don't know about this forum http://blenderartists.org/forum/index.php I highly recommend it for getting help.
They've been really good and friendly and helpful.

 

[Mor Paul]

Do you have any issues running Blender on any systems? It doesn't run well on my laptop with XP, but it runs perfectly in the same machine with ubuntu.

...generally no performance issues with 2.48 unless I get a huge animation project going and then it'll start to bog down if I have to many objects
showing when I'm trying to work. Sometimes I have to go into wire frame mode just to avoid gummy response, but this would be on a very large project.
I'm also running older ati video cards so that doesn't help.   
It only runs very moderately well on my laptop. The video on the laptop isn't strong enough to run any large projects smoothly.
My rendering is never a problem. I render individual .tga frames and sometimes get 4 machines each doing a quarter of the frams
and that helps alot.

I suspect it's going to be stronger on a Linux system. I've not tried Blender in Ubuntu although I'd really like to sometime.

If you don't know about this forum http://blenderartists.org/forum/index.php I highly recommend it for getting help.
They've been really good and friendly and helpful.

I'm suspecting some mix of hardware/OS conflicts with the program for mine. The menus and everything don't render well.

 

[Jeremiah]

I'm still a Mac user for one reason only: Logic

Once you have spent as much time (and money, on upgrades) as I have learning all the aspects of an audio/sequencing program, it just doesn't seem worth going through the same learning curve again for something else that does essentially the same thing in a different way.

Plus with all the instruments and effects that Logic has built in, if I bought a PC I'd probably have to spend more on software than I would on a new Mac just to get the same level of functionality as Logic has out of the box.

Having said that, I have to admit I'm not entirely happy with the direction Apple has taken Logic since they bought the company, and one of these days I'd like to take a long look at what can be done with Ableton Live.

 

[Volitions Advocate]

wait... I think you just shattered my world... Logic is Mac exclusive?

also

Not really; "nerds"/engineers tend to be into DIY in general, why not guitars as well? Makes sense if you think about it....

[quote author=jackthehack]Hackintosh[/quote]

yes and yes.

I'm also a budding video game designer.  Soon here I'd like to get a rig up and running to do my DAW stuff (which i'm currently in school for) AND 3D/gaming/software developing stuff.

Right now i'm running a Q6600 w/ 2.5 gbRam and an Asus nvidia 8800GT  I'd like to get an i7 with W7 64 bit and a nice beefy 3d card. like a GTX 280 or 275 or something.

also I think I'm one of the few people in the world who actually really loves Vista.  maybe it's because I waited over a year before finally getting my copy. but it works better than XP ever did.  Safer virus-wize, programs actually work.. the only thing I have trouble with is legacy apps.  Which is why i think from all the feedback I will absolutely love W7, which also eliminates my need to ever make a hackintosh.

 

[kboman]

I'd like to get an i7 with W7 64 bit and a nice beefy 3d card. like a GTX 280 or 275 or something.

Those cards are quickly becoming irrelevant: check out the new HD5000-series from ATi or wait for nVidia's new stuff next year (though they will likely be pretty expensive...).

 

[Volitions Advocate]

I picked the 275 because the 295 is about twice as much.  I never go for the top of the list stuff because the prices tend to logarithmic.  I also used to be a huge ATI supporter but once they merged with AMD they kind of fell behind a bit.  I realize that now they've caught back up, but as far as I've been able to tell there isn't any difference in price point.  It used to be get the ATI card if you wanted to save some money and support the underdog.  but they're charging just as much as Nvidia now.  And SLI seems to be a little more reliable than Crossfire (if the forums are to be believed) and with the added benefit of physx I think I'll stick with the Intel/Nvidia pairing for now.  I realize that PhysX seems superflouous  but with since UDK just got released I"m on a bit of an Unreal Engine 3 binge.