Custom Guitar from Warmoth parts, need some guidance!

[guitarkid45196]

So I'm going for a pretty whacky custom strat. After I get all the parts I'm going to have it put together by this really awesome luthier I have contact with. In the meantime, I want to make sure I have all the parts I'll need and everything will come together nicely; I've never used Warmoth before. So far, here is what my order looks like:

Custom Body

Model: STRATOCASTER®
Scale: 25-1/2 IN.
Chambered: YES
Orientation: RIGHT HANDED $0.00
Wood:
Core: MAHOGANY $217.00
Front Laminate: MAHOGANY $75.00
Control Cavity: TOP ROUT$0.00
Pickup Rout: STRAT®, STRAT®, HUMBUCKER$0.00
Control Routing: NONE
Bridge Type: TREMOLO$0.00
Bridge Rout: RECESSED ORIGINAL FLOYD TREMOLO$0.00
Jack Rout: STRAT® TOP JACK ROUT
Neck Pocket: STRAT® SHAPE$0.00
Mounting Holes: STANDARD 4 BOLT$0.00
Contours:
CONTOURED HEEL$35.00
FOREARM CONTOUR $0.00
TUMMY CUT $0.00
Stud Install: USE INSERTS FROM BRIDGE ON ORDER$10.00
Top Finish: OLYMPIC WHITE$195.00
Back Finish: OLYMPIC WHITE$0.00
Subtotal$532.00

Pickguard

Shape: STRATOCASTER®
Material/Color: .06" WHITE SOLID GLOSS$25.00
Bridge Cut: FLOYD BRIDGE CUT
Mounting Holes: 11 HOLE
Neck Pickup: STRAT®
Middle Pickup: STRAT®
Bridge Pickup: HUMBUCKER
Control 1: VOLUME
Control 2: TONE
Control 3: TONE 2
Control 4: 5 WAY SWITCH
Option: STANDARD COUNTERSINK
Subtotal$25.00

Hardware

Neck Pickup: JB JR. FOR STRAT$81.75
Middle Pickup: DUCKBUCKERS FOR STRAT$81.75
Bridge Pickup: FULL SHRED TREMBUCKER$85.50
Control: STRAT® VOLUME KNOB, WHITE$1.50
Control: STRAT® TONE KNOB, WHITE$1.50
Control: STRAT® TONE KNOB, WHITE$1.50
Control: STRAT® SWITCH KNOB, WHITE$1.75
Bridge: GENUINE FLOYD ROSE® ORIGINAL TREMOLO, CHROME$170.00
Locking Nut (Included): FLOYD ROSE LOCKING NUT, R3, CHROME$0.00
Input Jack: RECESSED TOP JACK PLATE, CHROME$5.50
Neck Plate: NECK PLATE, CHROME$5.00
Neck Screws: NECK SCREW, SET OF 2+2 FOR CONTOURED HEEL, CHROME$2.60
Strap Holders: SCHALLER STRAP LOCKS, PAIR, CHROME$13.25
Trem Cover: .06" BLACK SOLID MATTE TREM COVER - 1 RECTANGULAR HOLE$12.00
Subtotal$463.60

Price: $1,020.60

Neck:

Specifications
Style: Stratocaster®
Construction: Warmoth Pro Construction
Scale: 25-1/2 in.
Neck Wood: $177.00 USD
Shaft Wood: Mahogany
Fingerboard Wood: Indian Rosewood
Orientation: Right Handed Reverse+ $0.00
Nut Width: 1-11/16"+ $0.00
Back Shape: Standard thin+ $0.00
Radius: Straight 10"+ $35.00
# of Frets: 24+ $25.00
Fret Size: SS6105 (Stainless)+ $20.00
Tuner Ream: Schaller (25/64" 11/32")+ $0.00
Inlays: + $90.00
Inlays: Pearloid Sharkfin
Side Dots: White Side Dots
Pre-Cut Installed String Nut: R3 Floyd Prep w/ Mounting Holes+ $45.00
Mounting Holes: Standard 4 Bolt+ $0.00
Finish: Clear Satin Nitro+ $100.00
Price: $492.00


Total Price: $1,512.60


I'm planning on replacing the volume and tone knobs with others from another site (purely an aesthetic thing), but besides that this is basically the entire guitar, minus strings. Do I need anything else? I'm pretty sure I need electronics for wiring and like pots and potentiometers or whatever, I don't know a lot about the electronics and wiring, or what Warmoth includes in orders. If there seem to be any gaps I may have missed, please point them out to me and feel free to give suggestions. The above is a work in progress, but I want this to be my dream guitar!

 

[DarkPenguin]

Tuners?

3 potentiometers.  If the JB JR can be split I'd get one push pull.  5 way switch.  Assorted wire.

 

[Updown]

Welcome aboard  :icon_thumright:

Do I need anything else?
I'm pretty sure I need electronics for wiring and like pots and potentiometers or whatever, I don't know a lot about the electronics and wiring, or what Warmoth includes in orders.
If there seem to be any gaps I may have missed, please point them out to me and feel free to give suggestions. The above is a work in progress, but I want this to be my dream guitar!

Pickguard screws ..... unless you have some magic way of doing that.  :icon_biggrin:
Neck Pad ..... I always use one, but others don't, so that's up to you.
A 5 way switch could be handy too. (But you added that in)  :doh:

You could ditch the Chrome neck plate and get Doug to make your own design on one.
http://unofficialwarmoth.com/index.php?topic=2754.2850

A good guitar case, but that comes later.

All the best for your new toy.  :hello2:
Don't forget the pic's !!

BTW ..... Warmoth only include what YOU order.
Thou ya might get a Warmoth sticker or Warmoth guitar pick  :laughing7:

 

[Fat Pete]

The 24 fret option is not going to work on a top routed strat

 

[guitarkid45196]

Which pots, switches, wiring etc should I get for this guitar? I understand that different pieces are used for different guitar qualities but I'm not sure which would work well with this kind of unorthodox guitar (warm wooded strat with humbuckers?).

Those Doug plates look pretty neat. What's a ballpark estimate of what that would cost me though? I'm already trying to get the price down, I think I'm gonna ditch the sharkfin inlays for a blank fretboard, saves about $100 and might look nicer too.

Also, would the 24 fret really not work? I believe they had some options they asked me about that indicated it would fit but I'm not sure why they would offer a strat style neck with 24 frets if it wouldn't fit their strat style body...

P.S. Any thoughts on my pickup selection? I picked them in a tad of a hurry, how would these pickups sound together?Would they be balanced?

Thank you all!

 

[Fat Pete]

They offer a 24 fret pickup reposition option, but only on rear-routed bodies as far as I can see.

 

[guitarkid45196]

Ah, good call fat pete. I went back through the builder and chose the rear route and it seems like that's the trick. This means I won't be able to have a pickguard on the front though. I sort of liked the look of a pickguard on the strat, I guess I'll have to think about whether the 2 extra outweigh the aesthetics for me. Thank you for pointing that out!

 

[Cagey]

Ah, good call fat pete. I went back through the builder and chose the rear route and it seems like that's the trick. This means I won't be able to have a pickguard on the front though. I sort of liked the look of a pickguard on the strat, I guess I'll have to think about whether the 2 extra outweigh the aesthetics for me. Thank you for pointing that out!

I'm not sure what aesthetics you get from 24 frets. To me, they've always seemed useless. But, it has been pointed out that if you do a lotta hammers and taps, sometimes it's a little easier if you have a complete reproduction of the fretboard past the 12th fret. I've not found a need for it, but that's just me. You can't really reach the those frets to play them directly, so...

Also, I support the idea of losing the fret inlays. Not only saves you money, but looks nicer.

 

[stubhead]

DONT PULL IT DONT PULL IT DONT.... Am I in time??

I have always like 24 frets, it's not so much that you can get that last little
SCREAMO-FACE!!  so much as, you can maintain a lot of your regular hand/chord/box shapes even as you get way up there. Zample, your middle finger on the A string @ 19th fret, index finger on the D string @ 18th fret, little finger on the D, G & B strings at fret 21 then do the flappies*. There are people along the lines of Petrucci who can maintain quite intelligible musical lines and thoughts up there, as opposed to just run up and do the constipato-face and bend a wee-wee or two. Of course - now everybody has to do the bent wee-wee all the way up to G from the 24th fret, hell of a way to win a war if you ask me. GET A FRIKKIN' MANDOLIN, WHY DON'T YOU... and I play lots of slide, and good upper reach helps a bit with staying in tune. Which is kind of nice.



WeeWee to the left, 'n
WeeWee to the right
WeeWee til your ears blow,
WeeWee all night



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyCH70FODJA

And furthermore, the reason to look a bit deeper - Warmoth's "7/8" series is the neat-o solution to most everything. The necks are 24.75" scale, with 24 perfectly reachable frets, and it looks right. Sometime the tacked-on frets on a regular body are sort of out of whack-looking. Like, the Suhr and Washburn 24-fretters are just... just wrong enough to bother me.  The Warmoth 7/8 necks are also compatible with Jaguars and Mustangs, but the Strat and Tele bodies are sized-down to make everything match. They don't cost any more, and they're just better.  :icon_thumright: Don't run into that pairing too much.

 

[mayfly]

That's a nice looking thing.  Any more info on it?

 

[stubhead]

That mandolin was made for U. Srinivas, best known for his work with John McLaughlin in "Remember Shakti." And:



That's kind of a sister guitar, made for McLaughlin by a French luthier named Mike Sabre.
http://www.mike-sabre.com/

Maybe not too oddly, McLaughlin has a pile of guitars that he won't put on commercial airliners - he's just destroyed too many guitars and amps that way, he's in that middle tier of success where he can't fly with too much stuff. He may use it mostly in Europe... over here he plays a Godin or PRS, through a computer-based "amp."

There are many, many people telling him to chuck the computer, get a Marshall and sound "normal" for pete's sakes. But, he may also be in the last tier of jazzmen who insist on finding a unique tone, instead of copying five people and calling it "mine..." Both Coltrane & Miles caught quite a load of goop because they didn't play with vibrato - but, if you hear an unknown track, you can identify Miles Davis and John Coltrane by hearing ONE NOTE. When I was a wee one, guitarists were like that - Santana, Page, Garcia, Clapton - HENDRIX - you could always tell who's who; nowadays to get a job you have to be able to imitate all of 'em! :toothy12:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FID9lAuOxEg

This next concert is at Berklee School of Music, so McLaughlin breaks out the flamethrower, natch. Squirmy little grommets, thinking they all badass or something.

http://tela.sugarmegs.org/_asxtela/RememberShakti1999-06-26BerkleePerformanceCenterBostonMA.asx

I have never heard anything like that first guitar solo, McLaughlin draws on so many ideas and disciplines to sample from, it's just boggling. An 11 minute guitar solo, he never repeats or drops into a patterned framework. And then the little kid with the little guitar almost smokes him! :laughing3: Srinivas just teases the hell out of them before unloading the big lick. 18:40 on, o dearie me. Srinivas is like Debashish Bhattacharya or Anoushka Shankar, perfectly comfortable in Western music.

So did THAT answer the question?

 

[Jumble Jumble]

I know what you mean, Stubby. I had similar emotions the first time I heard Teenage Dream.

 

[Surf n Music n Ski n Bike]

Hey Stub what is that little tele?? A electric Ukelele??

 

[Cagey]

It's the big Tele's baby. Still hasn't sprouted it's full set of strings, but they'll come in eventually.

 

[Surf n Music n Ski n Bike]

Bahhahaa Just need a little love and nurturing

 

[stubhead]

F U toont G-C-E-A s Ukule
F U toont G-D-A-E s Mandolin
F U toont D-G-B-E s how studo musicans "double" on mandolin (studo muscans can has mandolins! studo muscans can has sitars! studo muscans can has ouds! studo muscans can has bouzoukis! studo muscans can has Balalaikas! Chitarras! Banjos! Bazookas! = toont D-G-B-E = UNIVWERST!

Toont E-A-D-G s bass for little, little peppls

 

[Surf n Music n Ski n Bike]

Ha a bass for a weee lill one! I want one!

 

[mayfly]

Hey - did anyone answer the OP's question?  :icon_scratch:

 

[Updown]

Hey - did anyone answer the OP's question?  :icon_scratch:

We tried.

But I think he got put off from a comment on another forum. (ultimate guitar forum)
Which was posted here .... http://unofficialwarmoth.com/index.php?topic=23385.0

One of those people that will believe, just one persons comments on the big wide web.  :doh:

His loss ......  :laughing7: