Bone nut question

Glimmer

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I'm looking to buy a couple of unbleached bone nut blanks. Would prefer them "Fender-size" if possible, ideally 11/16" w and with a 9.5 top radius. Certainly open to preslotted ones, if such exist.

Been sniffin' around but no luck so far. Any suggestions would be most welcome.
 
Something like this perhaps...

http://www.stewmac.com/Materials_and_Supplies/Nuts_and_Saddles/Slotted_Unbleached_Bone_Nut.html
 
Thanks, stratamania. I had looked at those, so they're on my radar. Radius is a bit off at 10; don't know if that's a problem or not.

Given that difference, I was wondering if anybody knew of blanks with a top radius of 9.5, or whether it'd be best to attempt to make my own from a true blank. Never done it before, but would like to do it myself if possible w/out investing in a bunch of expensive tools as I'm not likely to do this all that often.

I know there are plenty of techs around who can do it for a nominal fee and may wind up going that route if it's not possible to do so in a relatively easy, inexpensive way.
 
10" radius is close enough.  You'd essentially deepen the slots on the outer strings to achieve the 9/5" radius.  You will have to finesse the shape and slots anyway.
 
Thanks, Frank. I imagined that pretty much what I'd be doing.

Think of getting a razor saw + some needle files for the job, proper nut files costing too much for the limited use I'm likely to get out of them.
 
I'm always finding myself in the same boat, but I always try to justify spending money on tools even if I only use them once a year lol.
 
One of the ways to finesse the bottom of the radius would be to use some sandpaper held over the neck between the nut slot and the first fret that will get you close.

Edit: the above applies to those necks where the not slot has a radius rather than a flat bottom.


On the tools there are two ways to go either farm the job out as the tools are going to cost more than the job or figure out how many times you might do the job yourself then factor in satisfaction or frustration depending on whether it's the type of thing you like doing.


 
Glimmer said:
Think of getting a razor saw + some needle files for the job, proper nut files costing too much for the limited use I'm likely to get out of them.

Razor saws generally cut nut material pretty fast, so it's surprisingly easy to cut too deep. A gauged set of them isn't as expensive as nut files, but they're still in the $40-$50 range.  Needle files are rarely narrow enough for slots. The reason they make special nut slotting files is because you need them. They're expensive because they're a specialized tool that's a low-production item. Figure $100-$150.

Getting a nut professionally installed, cut and adjusted is generally a $25 to $40 job.

You do the math.
 
There's some cheap kits on eBay for about $20. I'm sure you can get a couple of nuts out of them. Then you can decide if you got what it takes or even have the need to step up your investment.
 
Thanks everyone for your reply.

I'm admittedly a bit torn. On the one hand, I hate to spend $50+ on tools I'm likely going to use only once or twice, on the other, I'd really like to be able to this myself. Though I've not done it before and am generally not a "handy" kind of guy, this job doesn't seem so difficult, and I am fastidious and detail-oriented for the tasks I set out to do.

Decisions, decisions.  :icon_scratch:
 
I'm curious. Why don't you want to have a pro do it? You don't want to spend the money on the tools, you admit you're not handy, you've never done it before...

While it's not particularly difficultt, cutting nut slots looks easier than it is. Even after you've cut hundreds of them, you still blow one once in while. And that's with having the best of tools, advice and experience.

If you're only looking at one or two necks, I'd strongly recommend just getting it done. You'll be much happier.
 
Thanks for your comment, Cagey. I may wind up doing just what you say.

FWIW, I've got nothing against having professionals work on my instruments. In fact, I've been doing just that for more than 30 years, from basic repairs and set ups, to new saddles, nuts, bridge pins, swapping out pups, tuners, restoring an old guitar, even had a someone put together a custom build for me from parts I bought here and there. Just handed them all over and said: call me when it's a guitar. Generally speaking, if something needed doing, I had someone else do it.

For me, one of the points of the current build was to try to do as much of it as I could myself. The "heavy lifting" – stuff I knew was out of my league – finishing, wiring – I had done by pros. The rest I thought I'd try my hand at, as much for the experience as for whatever pleasure I could derive from it. Otherwise, frankly, I could've just bought a new guitar and been done with it. Would have been cheaper and a lot faster – I'd have been playing it for 6 weeks by now.  :icon_smile:  But that's not the same thing, as you know.

Hence my reticence, though again, in the end I may wind up taking it to a local shop and having it done. In fact, gonna call one in about half an hour to see if they can press fit those bridge thimbles for me.
 
Cagey said:
I'm curious. Why don't you want to have a pro do it? You don't want to spend the money on the tools, you admit you're not handy, you've never done it before...

While it's not particularly difficultt, cutting nut slots looks easier than it is. Even after you've cut hundreds of them, you still blow one once in while. And that's with having the best of tools, advice and experience.

If you're only looking at one or two necks, I'd strongly recommend just getting it done. You'll be much happier.

Mild necro bump. Plus you want to leave the inhaling of bone dust to somebody else. Only takes once and who knows, in a year your head CT might look like swiss cheese. Plus several very nasty lung problems you can develop.
 
In the end, I will be asking a tech to cut a bone nut for it and set it up. I hope to get it to him by the end of next week and back in the new year.
 
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